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    Same but Different

    Posted by peter r on July 22, 2009, 11:07 pm, in reply to "EAS compressors"
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    The 2 pumps will interchange but it is not a straight swap .

    Differences ....

    The P38a pump motor is about 10mm longer .

    The P38a pump has a different head on the pump .( same other than 1 hole incomplete , could be finished to be the same but didn`t look at head workings )

    The p38a air intake is into the crankcase .

    The Classic air intake is into the head .

    ( The compressor internals are the same .)

    All the end brackets/mounts will interchange but can only be used on the vehicle they came off without alteration .

    Pump end , brackets/mounts are wider on p38a .

    Pump end , bracket/mount is thicker on classic .

    The p38a rubber mounts will swap to the classic but not the other way with the original classic type .

    The wires are on the right side p38a and on the left classic , same connectors on both .


    To fit the p38a unit to our 94 ..

    Swap pump cylinder heads .

    Swap pump end bracket/mounts .

    Make new motor end bracket/mount .

    Pack dryer body up and angled so`s it clears longer p38a motor .

    The time consuming part is making the new bracket , used 1.8mm flat , mirrored the original but a little longer on the lower arms .

    It would have been quicker to use the existing classic mount/bracket and drill 2 new holes for the motor end mounts and cut the original threads off and use 2 new bolts .


    It would be easier to fit a classic unit to a p38a because only the motor end braket/mount would need to be packed out 10mm . ( single braket/mount end )

    Cheers

    Peter .

    --Previous Message--
    : Hi All .
    :
    : The Compressor on our 94 has been a bit
    : noisy of late , which i put down to mounts
    : or rubbing .
    :
    : Changed the mounts for P38 mounts , noise ,
    : still there and not touching .
    :
    : Tracked it down to the ( may be something to
    : know ).....6201 twin sealed.... bearing that
    : is on the front/pump end of the compressor
    : motor .
    :
    : It has had a piston/rod/sleeve fitted a
    : couple of yrs ago by the previous owner .
    :
    : I broke 1 of the brushes when putting it
    : together in a rush and not taking enough
    : care .
    :
    : Made another 1 out of an old brush from the
    : old starter from the 85 , filed into shape .
    :
    : The above is only the lead into my question
    : ...
    :
    :
    : Other than the P38 compressor being mounted
    : upside down in comparison to the classic
    : type and the P38 type using 3 mounts where
    : the classic type uses 4 are the units the
    : same thing with different detachable end
    : plates , well 1 ends the same and 1s not ?
    :
    : Not clear ?
    :
    : Both compressors have what seem to be the
    : same plate for the 2 mounts on 1 end .
    :
    : On the other END 1 compressor has a plate
    : that is able to support 1 other mount and 1
    : compressor has a plate that is able to
    : support 2 other mounts .
    :
    : On this END of both compressors are these
    : plates interchangeable thus making it
    : possible to convert a P38 type 3 mount
    : compressor into a Classic type 4 mount
    : compressor and the other way around .
    :
    : Cheers
    :
    : Peter .
    :
    :

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