If Stan Altman or Gene Goss read this give a me a jingle, I have pictures of us riding camels out to the Pyramids while serving aboard the Edward D. White in early 1945. Ed
Re: Camel riding in Egypt
Posted by Ron Carlson on January 6, 2011, 10:35 pm, in reply to "Camel riding in Egypt"
Ed,
Checking for crew lists for EDWARD D WHITE, I find a man named Wayman Stanley Altman. This may be your Stan Altman. I also found current-day contact information for a person who may be him:
Wayman S Altman 543 Timmons Street Saint Simons Island, GA 31522-4337 (912) 638-2916
The same crew list include you (listed as Edward Treat Neely) but not a Gene Goss. The voyage in question was an arrival in New York on Jan 18, 1945. It's not clear from the record as to where the ship had been before returning to New York.
Give a call to Stan and tell us how it goes. Good luck.
Ron Carlson, Webmaster Armed Guard / Merchant Marine website www.armed-guard.com
Ron Carlson;; Thank you. I called Stan and we had a nice chat, I now have his E-Mail and will write him later. He did'nt remember much but he did remember me. Thanks for all your touble and your dedication to the Armed Guard. I don't understand the dates however. WE were in the Red Sea in Sept. of 45 returned to New York in Nov. Thanks Again ED
I have a photo of my father and three other men on Camel in Egypt, a long with other photo of a gun crew i beleave to be SS H.H. Richardson. Plus other photo of Sicily,photo taken 4 day after the invasion of Normandy,Frankfurt Germany, plus other. But do not know any of the other men with my father.
For what it's worth, this is a list of the Armed Guard crew aboard SS HENRY H RICHARDSON on its arrival in New York City on 18 January 1945, having sailed from Cardiff, Wales, on 3 January, and from Cherbourg, France, on or about 23 December 1944. There were also 42 civilian merchant marine sailors and officers aboard, whom I have not listed.
The Armed Guard crew included John Kauten, whom I presume is your father. The men were between the ages of 18 and 42 (Ralph Owen was the oldest); most were between 18 and 21. John Kauten was age 20, a seaman 1st class, he had a year of sea time behind him, he was supposedly of Scandinavian descent but a U.S. citizen, and he was 5'10" and 155 lbs. The Armed Guard crew had joined the ship in Philadelphia on 10 November 1944, with the merchant crew arriving on various dates about the same time.
The ship subsequently left New York on or about 2 February, arrived in Norfolk, Virginia, on 4 February, and was scheduled to sail on an unspecified date for an unspecified destination later in February. Convoys departing Norfolk often sailed to the Mediterranean, so it may have been on that voyage that your father ended up on a camel.
Indeed, the ConvoyWeb website (https://www.convoyweb.org.uk/ugs/index.html ) shows that HENRY H RICHARDSON was one of 55 merchant ships with six warship escorts in convoy UGS-75, which departed Hampton Roads (i.e., Norfolk) on 17 February and arrived Gibraltar on 4 March. UGS convoys typically continued on to Port Said, Egypt.
HENRY H RICHARDSON later appears in convoy GUS-79, Oran, Algeria, to Hampton Roads, 23 March to 9 April, 1945 (http://www.convoyweb.org.uk/gus/index.html).
Below are the names of his ship mates. You may want to see if you can locate any of them, since I have no contact information on them, nor do I even know which ones are still living if any. You may want to check the more unusual names first against the Social Security Death Index (http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/) to see if you can identify any who have died. Any you cannot find in the Social Security Death Index, check against an online telephone directory like White Pages (http://www.whitepages.com/) to look for current contact information. The more common names you will not be able to trace definitively.
Arthur arrette Nick Biangamano Elwood De Weese Donald Garlock Ard Gwinner, ENS, Armed Guard commanding officer George Hasek Everett Hatt George Jones Frank Justison Fred Kasperson John Kauten James Kay John Kearney Lester Kidd James King Aza Morris Lake Jr. James Lamonica Joseph Lee John Malvey William Nagle Donald Neumann Ralph Owen Dominisk Rossi Forrest Sanxter Charles Shultz Thomas Thornton John Lowry, 2nd LT, US Army, Cargo security officer
Good luck.
Ron Carlson, Webmaster Armed Guard / Merchant Marine website www.armed-guard.com
Hi; My shipmates and I were aboard the Edward D. White, we went into Cairo on a 72 and ending up going to the pyramids, Where we rode camels. Gene Goss, Stan Altman & I. I found Stan but have been unable to locate Gene. Thanks for the answer. Take care. Ed Neely SM1/C