| Reality as it is is Truth.
Posted by Butcho on 10/27/2009, 8:40 am, in reply to "Re: Truth? " 75.88.45.X
--Previous Message-- : : Greetings nina, : : " As Mu said....... We don't need : someone's else's words to verify what we : feel." : : Maybe we don't need someone's words but : they can add to our happiness. No? : : in peace, : gar : : : Sure, Gar. I love words....... and some : people's words definitely add to my : happiness. Even the words I don't like can : give me a smile occasionally. You too? : : I think Mu (and I) are talking about quoting : words from texts of people we never even : met. I've gotten lots of happiness from my : translations/interpretations of The Laozi. : It made me feel like I wasn't the only : person in the world who felt the way I do. : Then other people tell me that's not at all : what The Laozi is saying..... and they set : forth their various ways of : translating/interpreting it. : : That's why it's a little erroneous to say : something like: : "This is what The Laozi is : saying." : Then use that to try to prove others are : wrong. : Do you get my drift? : : : Dear Nina, While I quite agree with the gist of what you are saying and not saying I feel I must point out one truth. There is one Fundamental within all true mystical insight. That fundamental being that from the first totality is a unitive one. Unity of existence is the Fundamental of fundamentals. The Emptiness of Zen, Chan, and so on, is just another way of expressing the fundamental unity of existence. No woman is an island. She is a peninsula. One way or another this is what all of the truly great sages with both mystical and practical insight are pointing to. Unity. The Father and I are a unitive one. From the Tao comes the One and the Many. Man in the microcosm is god in the macrocosm. From the first nothing is. We are reality in search of reality. Same thing, different words. The Perennial Philosophy. So, as long as someone's words are pointing at the underlying unity of existence then their words resonate with me. If there words are not unitive, then they don't resonate with me. Capish? Of course my words are always unitive. Yes they are. I said they are. Ok, I'm not perfect in my understanding either. But unity is the ground I stand upon. And I am proud to stand with anyone else that has chosen to stand upon the rock of the ages. Everything else is sand in comparison. I am in good company. The crowd that stands upon the sands of this and that have little influence over me and my kind. I am my own man. The World does not like people like me. Rebels with a cause. Up-setters of the status quo. I am dangerous. I know what I know deep down in my bones. And so it is with everyone that has come to realize the fundamental. Oh, we are still human. Still make mistakes. Some more than others. But the Fundamental is stronger than any of our personal or collective weaknesses. So though words always come up short we keep talking in the hope that some of our words might fall upon open ears. No, I don't think I am one of the great mystics or sages of our world. But I know what they are talking about, what they are pointing at. And I will not apologize to anyone for knowing what I know. All truth is not relative. Reality is not relative. The Fundamental is absolute. It is the dream of dualistic thinking that creates the illusion of one thing being completely separate from another. Maya. Anyone can be a great monk in a forest. New York City is quite another matter. It is time for all of the monks to come out of the forest. Otherwise they are merely solitary monkeys and not true monks. Now some purists will say I am simply on a very refined ego trip. Perhaps. But those same purists are the same ones that believe all is One. Numerically. Just One. The egoist is a lone God. One being their god they are by default the God. One is an object. Have no graven images before me. One is an unconsciously subjective objectification. Oneness is not an object. It is a consciously subjective realization. Oneness is greater than the sum of its parts. Oneness is a quality and not merely a quantity. A whole feel and not simply a partial knowing. As a quantity the Tao cannot be named. As a quality it can be felt, experienced directly. Pointed to. And once it is seen for oneself, nothing is ever the same again for the born again, the awakened, the enlightened. From the first totality is a unitive one. Unity is the Fundamental. There is no other. Everything else is a subset. The Fundamental is the Whole. Though a string has two ends they are not separate for their underlying unity is greater than their duality. The One and the Many are two ends of the string of existence. Each a tao. Their underlying unity is the Tao. It does not matter if I am a butterfly or a man. What matters is that I know the difference between dreaming and being awake. Butterfly or man is an example of the subject-object split of Maya. There is no butterfly. There is no man. Not as separate realities. It is only when the underlying unity of a polarity is realized that this and that become real in their own right. Yin is not real without yang is not real without yin. No man is an island. There is no separate peace. Sovereign contentment is a facade. It is all or nothing. Nothing can take the place of the whole. In Unity there is a peace that passeth understanding. Butcho
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