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Wu Yu and Zi le Posted by gar on 10/13/2009, 5:42 am 70.100.197.X Greetings all, After talking to my wife the other day about Zi le, consummate contentment, and how desire is born from discontentment, the light of day brought with it new eyes. Why would we do anything if we were fully contented? From rat's Apophatic Mysticism, With the realization of "zi le," (sovereign, or auto-generated contentment), the individual's fundamental satisfaction with life will no longer be contingent upon external circumstances. Mystical contentment depends exclusively on the manner by which one perceives, processes and responds to circumstances. How our minds consciously and unconsciously characterize the quality of our reality is not merely descriptive, it is causative. The effectiveness of our responses to the perceived changes in the world around us depends entirely on the emotional and intellectual predispositions with which we assess such changes. So, what seemed a paradox now seems to fit in the Wu Yu reality of the double walk. http://www.dynamictao.com/pdf_files/the_principle_of_oneness_and_field_being_philosophy.pdf in peace, gar  Post a Response

Re: Wu Yu and Zi le Posted by rene on 10/13/2009, 9:53 am, in reply to "Wu Yu and Zi le" 76.85.202.X --Previous Message-- : So, what seemed a paradox now seems to fit : in the Wu Yu reality of the double walk. Greetings gar, Once the 'both' of the double walk is understood, all paradoxes seem to fit. (-: warm regards  Post a Response

And a WuYu to YuTu. Posted by Butcho on 10/13/2009, 4:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Wu Yu and Zi le" 75.88.45.X --Previous Message-- : --Previous Message-- : So, what seemed a paradox now seems to fit : in the Wu Yu reality of the double walk. : : Greetings gar, : : Once the 'both' of the double walk is : understood, all paradoxes seem to fit. (-: : : warm regards : : rene, All of my pairs of socks have holes in them. Especially the ones that are one size fits all. Guess I am a barefoot boy by nature. Or maybe I am just a short-haired monkey. That would explain a lot. Among other things my penchant for bananas and I seem to remember something about a zoo. Enough kissing up to rat already, you would think he was a frog or something. <2>1, Butcho  Post a Response

Re: Wu Yu and Zi le Posted by ren ying on 10/15/2009, 4:39 am, in reply to "Wu Yu and Zi le" 85.181.44.X --Previous Message-- : Greetings all, : : After talking to my wife the other day about : Zi le, consummate contentment, and how : desire is born from discontentment, the : light of day brought with it new eyes. : : Why would we do anything if we were fully : contented? : : From rat's Apophatic Mysticism, : : With the realization of "zi le," : (sovereign, or auto-generated contentment), : the individual's fundamental satisfaction : with life will no longer be contingent upon : external circumstances. Mystical contentment : depends exclusively on the manner by which : one perceives, processes and responds to : circumstances. How our minds consciously and : unconsciously characterize the quality of : our reality is not merely descriptive, it is : causative. The effectiveness of our : responses to the perceived changes in the : world around us depends entirely on the : emotional and intellectual predispositions : with which we assess such changes. : : So, what seemed a paradox now seems to fit : in the Wu Yu reality of the double walk. : : : http://www.dynamictao.com/pdf_files/the_principle_of_oneness_and_field_being_philosophy.pdf : : in peace, : gar : would you agree that zhile 至樂 is independent of seeing problems and working on them? -- and that zhile is a fine condition for solving problems easier?  Post a Response

Zhile Posted by gar on 10/15/2009, 6:04 am, in reply to "Re: Wu Yu and Zi le" 70.100.197.X --Previous Message-- : : --Previous Message-- : Greetings all, : : After talking to my wife the other day about : Zi le, consummate contentment, and how : desire is born from discontentment, the : light of day brought with it new eyes. : : Why would we do anything if we were fully : contented? : : From rat's Apophatic Mysticism, : : With the realization of "zi le," : (sovereign, or auto-generated contentment), : the individual's fundamental satisfaction : with life will no longer be contingent upon : external circumstances. Mystical contentment : depends exclusively on the manner by which : one perceives, processes and responds to : circumstances. How our minds consciously and : unconsciously characterize the quality of : our reality is not merely descriptive, it is : causative. The effectiveness of our : responses to the perceived changes in the : world around us depends entirely on the : emotional and intellectual predispositions : with which we assess such changes. : : So, what seemed a paradox now seems to fit : in the Wu Yu reality of the double walk. : : : : http://www.dynamictao.com/pdf_files/the_principle_of_oneness_and_field_being_philosophy.pdf : : in peace, : gar : : : would you agree that zhile 至樂 is : independent of seeing problems and working : on them? : -- : and that zhile is a fine condition for : solving problems easier? : Greetings ren ying, Zhile, might allow us to accept that all things are useful. Maybe not for gar or ren ying, but is useful, never the less. As far as problem solving, what seems to be a problem for ren ying and gar is no problem for tao. in peace, gar  Post a Response

Re: Wu Yu and Zi le Posted by rene on 10/15/2009, 8:11 am, in reply to "Re: Wu Yu and Zi le" 76.85.202.X : would you agree that zhile 至樂 is : independent of seeing problems and working : on them? : -- : and that zhile is a fine condition for : solving problems easier? yep, both (-:  Post a Response

Wu Yu Posted by gar on 10/16/2009, 6:54 am, in reply to "Wu Yu and Zi le" 70.100.197.X --Previous Message-- : Greetings all, : : After talking to my wife the other day about : Zi le, consummate contentment, and how : desire is born from discontentment, the : light of day brought with it new eyes. : : Why would we do anything if we were fully : contented? : : From rat's Apophatic Mysticism, : : With the realization of "zi le," : (sovereign, or auto-generated contentment), : the individual's fundamental satisfaction : with life will no longer be contingent upon : external circumstances. Mystical contentment : depends exclusively on the manner by which : one perceives, processes and responds to : circumstances. How our minds consciously and : unconsciously characterize the quality of : our reality is not merely descriptive, it is : causative. The effectiveness of our : responses to the perceived changes in the : world around us depends entirely on the : emotional and intellectual predispositions : with which we assess such changes. : : So, what seemed a paradox now seems to fit : in the Wu Yu reality of the double walk. : : : http://www.dynamictao.com/pdf_files/the_principle_of_oneness_and_field_being_philosophy.pdf : : in peace, : gar : Greetings all, From Dr. Wang's 'The Principle of Oneness and Field-Being Philosophy' " Are Wu and Yu of Laotzu simply products of our Brain? Or, have our brains developed in such a way to cope with the Wu and Yu in the Nature? Is our philosophy only a mirror image of our brains? Can we extend the Principle of Oneness to define a Human Being as the Oneness state of the right-brain and the left brain?" Does it seem to you that humans have evolved to where we can perceive Wu Yu as oneness? Or, has our focus on Yu prevented us from being consciously 'without ego' therefore acting on oneness only through wu-wei? in peace, gar  Post a Response

Re: Wu Yu Posted by ren ying on 10/17/2009, 2:20 am, in reply to "Wu Yu" 85.181.1.X : : Greetings all, : : From Dr. Wang's 'The Principle of Oneness : and Field-Being Philosophy' : : " Are Wu and Yu of Laotzu simply : products of our : Brain? Or, have our brains developed in such : a way to cope with the Wu and Yu in the : Nature? Is our philosophy only a mirror : image of our brains? Can we extend the : Principle : of Oneness to define a Human Being as the : Oneness state of the right-brain and the : left brain?" : : Does it seem to you that humans have evolved : to where we can perceive Wu Yu as oneness? : Or, has our focus on Yu prevented us from : being consciously 'without ego' therefore : acting on oneness only through wu-wei? : : in peace, : gar : i think that ---wu you--- is a natural phenomenon ... working in humans in the same way as everywhere else the problem ist that the human mind can decide to mediate humans to act not in line with wu you... here you have the intersection where it makes sense to cultivate the ability to go in line with wu you... in ddj 38 you have a fine description of the chain...  Post a Response

Re: Wu Yu Posted by gar on 10/17/2009, 5:45 am, in reply to "Re: Wu Yu" 70.100.197.X --Previous Message-- : : Greetings all, : : From Dr. Wang's 'The Principle of Oneness : and Field-Being Philosophy' : : " Are Wu and Yu of Laotzu simply : products of our : Brain? Or, have our brains developed in such : a way to cope with the Wu and Yu in the : Nature? Is our philosophy only a mirror : image of our brains? Can we extend the : Principle : of Oneness to define a Human Being as the : Oneness state of the right-brain and the : left brain?" : : Does it seem to you that humans have evolved : to where we can perceive Wu Yu as oneness? : Or, has our focus on Yu prevented us from : being consciously 'without ego' therefore : acting on oneness only through wu-wei? : : in peace, : gar : : : i think that ---wu you--- : is a natural phenomenon ... : working in humans in the same way as : everywhere else : : the problem ist that the human mind can : decide to mediate humans to act not in line : with wu you... : : here you have the intersection where it : makes sense to cultivate the ability to go : in line with wu you... : : in ddj 38 you have a fine description of the : chain... : : Greetings ren ying, Yes, it seems that substance and function depend upon each other, while non-being functions quietly. in peace, gar  Post a Response

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