Posted by Butcho
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on 1/28/2012, 10:46 am, in reply to "Is there such a thing as "philosophical Daoism"?"
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Bao Pu,
First thing is everything we perceive is not us any more than a shadow is.
As far as philosophical taoism goes in my opinion it is just a distinction from religious taoism A distinction between a more spiritual practicality from a conceptually false dichotomy.
That is, the core of Taoism is based upon nondual insight. As is the core of most if not all of the great wisdom traditions of our world. From there those that are locked in their conditioned states of mind can only make a religion out of what was initially a realization that passeth normative understanding.
There is nowhere within duality that nonduality does not abide. It is just that most of us most of the time are unaware of what is really going on distracted as we are by the slide show of our conceptual minds.
This is the truth to which the OldBoy was pointing. From the Tao comes the One and the Many. From the Source comes the Shadow. Samsara is Nirvana. As above, so below.
No concept is reality any more than a map of Canada is Canada. In our dream state we make a god of our fingers when someone points to the moon.
Where mind is concerned there is hardware, software, and being aware.
All the sages want for us is that we wake up from conceptual reality, from our conditioned state of mind, to reality as it is. Pure consciousness where nothing including ourselves are separate from the unity of existence. That we are not what we have imagined ourselves to be for we are the very source of our imaginations. Only source can know Source. I and the Father are a unitive one. Figuratively speaking.
The ego is a conceptual habit. We cannot realize Wu through thought any more than our eye can see itself through seeing. Wu though itself is not a state of mind is that which indwells all states of mind.
The philosophy of the taoist adept is more practical than pragmatic. More spiritual than religious. More from the mystic heart, from the whole of one's essential self, than from one's piecemeal rationality.
Namaste,
Butcho
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