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Re: My way is easy too. Steve.

Posted by ButchO on 8/1/2011, 9:20 pm, in reply to "Re: My way is easy too. Steve."
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--Previous Message--
: Steve,
:
: Wu-wei is not inaction. It is action that is
: in accord with the way of the eternal Tao.
:
: ButchO
:
: ------------------------
:
: I agree.
:
: But I cannot proactively "do"
: wu-wei. It comes about (if one is to
: believe Laozi) as the result of a complete
: and total surrender of the desire to
: "do it."
:
: And I cannot "will" the surrender
: either. That is, I cannot make it come
: about by an act of will.
:
: The whole goddamn game is on auto-pilot.
:
: Sit back and enjoy the ride.
:
:

Steve,

Sitting back is doing something, even if that something is seemingly doing nothing.

Though existence does have mechanical aspects it is closer to the truth to say that existence is organic. To say that existence is on auto-pilot reduces reality down to little more than a machine. I think our metaphors matter.

Existence is alive. From the smallest to the largest material aspect to the immaterial as well.

Simplistically speaking there are two types of people. Those that work for the Combine. And those of us that work for the Union. You strike me as a Combine sort of man. All is numerically One. Anything goes. Nothing matters. I am a Union man. All is qualitatively one. Anything is possible but not all things are probable. Everything matters.

But, as a dues paying Union man, I must admit that all is not either this or that. Even the Union has a Combination. And so your stance has merit. It is just that in my opinion mine has more. I could be wrong.

Enlightenment unfolds in stages. Sudden enlightenment is almost always preceded by a gradual process. There are exceptions to every rule but this one.

Even detachment can become an attachment.

Thus I appeal to the high court of the wordless doctrine.

It isn't so much that there is nothing to do as there is nobody to do it.

ButchO

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        My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 7/28/2011, 9:04 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - gar 7/29/2011, 7:05 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Wayne L 7/31/2011, 9:22 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Wayne L 7/31/2011, 10:10 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 8/1/2011, 2:51 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Wayne L 8/16/2011, 1:51 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - ButchO 7/31/2011, 10:21 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 8/1/2011, 2:38 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - ButchO 8/1/2011, 9:20 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 8/2/2011, 8:57 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - ButchO 8/2/2011, 9:04 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - gar 8/3/2011, 4:43 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 8/3/2011, 10:02 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - gar 8/3/2011, 10:57 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 8/3/2011, 12:27 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - josef 8/3/2011, 7:15 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - Steve 8/3/2011, 9:49 am
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - josef 8/3/2011, 6:06 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - ButchO 8/3/2011, 6:37 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - josef 8/4/2011, 7:43 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - ButchO 8/12/2011, 9:15 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - josef 8/13/2011, 8:06 pm
        
        Re: My way is easy too. Steve. - ButchO 8/3/2011, 6:35 pm
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Steve, : : Wu-wei is not inaction. It is action that is : in accord with the way of the eternal Tao. : : ButchO : : ------------------------ : : I agree. : : But I cannot proactively "do" : wu-wei. It comes about (if one is to : believe Laozi) as the result of a complete : and total surrender of the desire to : "do it." : : And I cannot "will" the surrender : either. That is, I cannot make it come : about by an act of will. : : The whole goddamn game is on auto-pilot. : : Sit back and enjoy the ride. : : : : Steve, : : Sitting back is doing something, even if : that something is seemingly doing nothing. : : Though existence does have mechanical : aspects it is closer to the truth to say : that existence is organic. To say that : existence is on auto-pilot reduces reality : down to little more than a machine. I think : our metaphors matter. : : Existence is alive. From the smallest to the : largest material aspect to the immaterial as : well. : : Simplistically speaking there are two types : of people. Those that work for the Combine. : And those of us that work for the Union. You : strike me as a Combine sort of man. All is : numerically One. Anything goes. Nothing : matters. I am a Union man. All is : qualitatively one. Anything is possible but : not all things are probable. Everything : matters. : : But, as a dues paying Union man, I must : admit that all is not either this or that. : Even the Union has a Combination. And so : your stance has merit. It is just that in my : opinion mine has more. I could be wrong. : : Enlightenment unfolds in stages. Sudden : enlightenment is almost always preceded by a : gradual process. There are exceptions to : every rule but this one. : : Even detachment can become an attachment. : : Thus I appeal to the high court of the : wordless doctrine. : : It isn't so much that there is nothing to do : as there is nobody to do it. : : ButchO : :

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