Tao Speaks: Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment

Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment

Posted by Steve on 6/20/2011, 1:53 pm, in reply to "? Introspection = Enlightenment"
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: So, if introspection is contemplation of
: self, do we analyze our thoughts or just
: observe them?
:
: It seems to me that meditation and
: introspection, self analysis, is the path to
: harmony.

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Greetings, gar. I vote for "just observe them."

I'm of the opinion that one cannot "make" realization happen. This is the subject of perennial discussion/debate on the dao-focused boards, and I fall squarely on the "just observe" side.

Meditation of all manner (including, for example, reciting the Christian Rosary) can be a way of observing, but if it leads you to greater awareness then I think you were already at a place where the prospect of greater awareness was available to you. But you could not proactively bring yourself to that point through "effort." It just "came," like magic.

And on and on it goes, backwards in time with every thought and every "realization" we have ever had.

We were ready for whatever came, and it came. And in the process, we "did" nothing.

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? Introspection = Enlightenment - gar 6/19/2011, 5:59 am
- Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Steve 6/20/2011, 1:53 pm
  - Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - gar 6/21/2011, 4:41 am
    - Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Steve 6/21/2011, 9:25 am
      - Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Wayne L 6/22/2011, 10:22 am
  - Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Bao Pu 6/21/2011, 7:08 am
    - Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Steve 6/21/2011, 9:09 am
      - Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Bao Pu 6/22/2011, 5:56 am
- The Age of Reason - Wayne L 6/22/2011, 9:57 am
- Re: ? Introspection = Enlightenment - Wayne L 6/22/2011, 10:07 am
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--Previous Message-- : So, if introspection is contemplation of : self, do we analyze our thoughts or just : observe them? : : It seems to me that meditation and : introspection, self analysis, is the path to : harmony. : : ------------------------ : : Greetings, gar. I vote for "just : observe them." : : I'm of the opinion that one cannot : "make" realization happen. This : is the subject of perennial : discussion/debate on the dao-focused boards, : and I fall squarely on the "just : observe" side. : : Meditation of all manner (including, for : example, reciting the Christian Rosary) can : be a way of observing, but if it leads you : to greater awareness then I think you were : already at a place where the prospect of : greater awareness was available to you. But : you could not proactively bring yourself to : that point through "effort." It : just "came," like magic. : : And on and on it goes, backwards in time : with every thought and every : "realization" we have ever had. : : We were ready for whatever came, and it : came. And in the process, we : "did" nothing. :

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