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Re: Between Worth and Worthless

Posted by josef on 5/16/2011, 10:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Between Worth and Worthless"
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--Previous Message--

: gar & josef & any others that might
: want to chime in,
:
: Here's the thing. For me at least.
:
: We can become attached to being unattached.
:
: Self only has meaning in relationship with
: other. Day is meaningless without night.
:
: Much like a dog or a cat chasing after its
: own tail we are the underlying unity of
: existence searching for the underlying unity
: of existence.
:
: Mountains are mountains again.
:
: Subject and object are two valid ways of
: looking at the same underlying reality so
: long as neither perspective excludes the
: other.
:
: No man is an island, but he is a peninsula.
:
: Women too. Maybe even moreso.
:
: ButchO

ButchO, we can't become attached to non-attachment; if we're attached, we're not non-attached.

"The humblest monk in the monastery and proud of it" is the same thing; proud of it, he isn't humble at all.

These fall in the realm of spiritual materialism, ego contaminating the work, playing games with it.

In sincere cultivation and practice the most integral factor is gut-level self-honesty, recognizing and facing our self-delusion and putting it aside, choosing reality. No games here. No tricky stuff. No fluff.

Ti Dao, embodying Dao. Cultivating a pure heart. Too much trouble and an unappealing path to dilettantes and dabblers.

The Warrior Sage:
Pure,
simple,
unswerving
intent.

There's a sweet peace and clarity in that.

josef

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Message Thread

Between Worth and Worthless - gar 5/14/2011, 5:41 am
- Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/14/2011, 11:00 pm
  - Going with the flow - gar 5/15/2011, 5:30 am
  - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - josef 5/15/2011, 2:10 pm
    - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - gar 5/15/2011, 2:41 pm
      - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/15/2011, 10:35 pm
        
        Re: Between Worth and Worthless - josef 5/16/2011, 10:08 pm
        
        Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/17/2011, 8:15 am
        
        Re: Between Worth and Worthless - josef 5/17/2011, 12:15 pm
      - On Desirelessness - josef 5/17/2011, 12:18 pm
        
        Re: On Desirelessness - gar 5/17/2011, 12:40 pm
        
        Re: On Desirelessness - josef 5/17/2011, 1:58 pm
        
        Re: On Desirelessness - ButchO 5/17/2011, 10:52 pm
- Re: Between Worth and Worthless - Wayne L 5/17/2011, 10:44 am
  - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/17/2011, 10:58 pm
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : gar & josef & any others that might : want to chime in, : : Here's the thing. For me at least. : : We can become attached to being unattached. : : Self only has meaning in relationship with : other. Day is meaningless without night. : : Much like a dog or a cat chasing after its : own tail we are the underlying unity of : existence searching for the underlying unity : of existence. : : Mountains are mountains again. : : Subject and object are two valid ways of : looking at the same underlying reality so : long as neither perspective excludes the : other. : : No man is an island, but he is a peninsula. : : Women too. Maybe even moreso. : : ButchO : : ButchO, we can't become attached to : non-attachment; if we're attached, we're not : non-attached. : : "The humblest monk in the monastery and : proud of it" is the same thing; proud : of it, he isn't humble at all. : : These fall in the realm of spiritual : materialism, ego contaminating the work, : playing games with it. : : In sincere cultivation and practice the most : integral factor is gut-level self-honesty, : recognizing and facing our self-delusion and : putting it aside, choosing reality. No games : here. No tricky stuff. No fluff. : : Ti Dao, embodying Dao. Cultivating a pure : heart. Too much trouble and an unappealing : path to dilettantes and dabblers. : : The Warrior Sage: : Pure, : simple, : unswerving : intent. : : There's a sweet peace and clarity in that. : : josef : : : :

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