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Re: Between Worth and Worthless

Posted by ButchO on 5/14/2011, 11:00 pm, in reply to "Between Worth and Worthless"
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--Previous Message--
: Greetings all,
:
: From our good friend's blog, Bao Pu points
: to Zhuangzi's "Avoiding entanglements
: and living out one's natural lifespan."
:
: This parable works on the assumption that
: living out onefs natural lifespan
: (I‘´“V”N) is desired/valued. Passing
: between the extremes of being useful and
: useless is a fairly good course of action,
: but avoiding all entanglements can only be
: achieved by being extremely flexible,
: elusive and unpredictable and gtaking
: harmony for your measureh (ˆÈ˜aˆ×—Ê).
: Likewise, gavoiding
: entanglements/attachmentsh (–ÆŒÁ—Ý) is
: valued as well.
:
: To me this is where the rubber meets the
: road. Being extremely flexible, elusive and
: unpredictable and "taking harmony for
: your measure" allows us freedom from
: our own desires.
:
: Perhaps this philosophy is exemplified when,
: producing an art piece that is composed of
: its elements and guided by its nature.
:
:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kleckerburg1_2006_08.jpg
:
: in peace,
: gar
:
gar,

I can touch my toes

And wiggle my ears.

I am nothing

And everything.

To want to be free from one's desires is itself a desire, and as such an infinite regression.

What I want is not to have my desires beat me up, or beat up anyone else for that matter. Moderation in all things, including moderation.

I do not want to separate myself from any part of myself for such separation is more problematic than any aspect of my being.

When a person takes a position that is against a natural aspect of his or her being an un-natural aspect often arises.

What I would like to be separate from is the notion that I am separate from anything that I experience.

ButchO

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Between Worth and Worthless - gar 5/14/2011, 5:41 am
- Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/14/2011, 11:00 pm
  - Going with the flow - gar 5/15/2011, 5:30 am
  - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - josef 5/15/2011, 2:10 pm
    - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - gar 5/15/2011, 2:41 pm
      - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/15/2011, 10:35 pm
        
        Re: Between Worth and Worthless - josef 5/16/2011, 10:08 pm
        
        Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/17/2011, 8:15 am
        
        Re: Between Worth and Worthless - josef 5/17/2011, 12:15 pm
      - On Desirelessness - josef 5/17/2011, 12:18 pm
        
        Re: On Desirelessness - gar 5/17/2011, 12:40 pm
        
        Re: On Desirelessness - josef 5/17/2011, 1:58 pm
        
        Re: On Desirelessness - ButchO 5/17/2011, 10:52 pm
- Re: Between Worth and Worthless - Wayne L 5/17/2011, 10:44 am
  - Re: Between Worth and Worthless - ButchO 5/17/2011, 10:58 pm
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--Previous Message-- : --Previous Message-- : Greetings all, : : From our good friend's blog, Bao Pu points : to Zhuangzi's "Avoiding entanglements : and living out one's natural lifespan." : : This parable works on the assumption that : living out onefs natural lifespan : (I‘´“V”N) is desired/valued. Passing : between the extremes of being useful and : useless is a fairly good course of action, : but avoiding all entanglements can only be : achieved by being extremely flexible, : elusive and unpredictable and gtaking : harmony for your measureh (ˆÈ˜aˆ×—Ê). : Likewise, gavoiding : entanglements/attachmentsh (–ÆŒÁ—Ý) is : valued as well. : : To me this is where the rubber meets the : road. Being extremely flexible, elusive and : unpredictable and "taking harmony for : your measure" allows us freedom from : our own desires. : : Perhaps this philosophy is exemplified when, : producing an art piece that is composed of : its elements and guided by its nature. : : : : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kleckerburg1_2006_08.jpg : : in peace, : gar : : gar, : : I can touch my toes : : And wiggle my ears. : : I am nothing : : And everything. : : To want to be free from one's desires is : itself a desire, and as such an infinite : regression. : : What I want is not to have my desires beat : me up, or beat up anyone else for that : matter. Moderation in all things, including : moderation. : : I do not want to separate myself from any : part of myself for such separation is more : problematic than any aspect of my being. : : When a person takes a position that is : against a natural aspect of his or her being : an un-natural aspect often arises. : : What I would like to be separate from is the : notion that I am separate from anything that : I experience. : : ButchO : : :

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