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Posted by isabeau
on 4/23/2011, 1:31 pm, in reply to "Re: can laozi's dao be noble - beautiful - ugly - evil - benevolent? ... absolute?"
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: can laozi's dao be noble - beautiful - ugly
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: evil - benevolent? ... absolute?
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: laozi: ddj 25: dao fa zi ran
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: 1 - this means it is essentially nature...
: burning from itself - having no emotional
: relationship to human beings...
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: "noble" and the other adjectives
: are words describing typical human
: qualities rebound to emotionality of human
: beings...
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: thus 1 excludes the possibility of dao being
: "noble" or any other human
: qualitiy...
: --
: can dao be absolute?
: laozi's dao describes the way of parts
: interacting building a network - thus it is
: essentially not absolute - it is always
: dependent on the existence of wu-parts and
: you-parts
: ddj2
: you wu xiang sheng
: --
: utf 8
: ddj 16
: 萬物并作
: 吾以觀復
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: hi wulf --
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: noble as in human virtue, or noble as in the
: same way as some gases are considered noble?
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: just a thought...
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: Hello Isabeau
: Nice to see you posting here ...
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: You are thinking of
:
: "The noble gases are a group of
: chemical elements with very similar
: properties: under standard conditions, they
: are all odorless, colorless, monatomic
: gases,.."
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: No - i have not thought of this...
: I have thought of "noble" as a
: human quality.. being attributed to Laozi's
: dao.
: - my answer is no - laozi's dao cannot be
: noble.
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: I think
: that ddj 5 can help here to understand....
: dao can be found in human emotions, human
: thinking - but human emotions, human
: thinking are not dao...
: i see dao as a principle
: being in existence before humans have
: started to live in this world...
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: Nice holidays for you
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then --
something to which we aspire (if we're daoist, that is)?
in other words, perhaps our nobility isn't the same as the noble gases...but our ability to become as noble as we can be is something that has a similarity to the noble gases (indistinguishable from the whole)?
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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