Posted by rat on 4/16/2011, 1:48 pm, in reply to "both"
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: Hi rene
: My guess is that the experience would
: be the same. In both cases we are escaping
: the usual defined path of the mind. We are
: free of the rule of mind.
: And yet, one way excludes characterizations
: - and the other allows for all
: possibilities, including characterizations.
: On the surface, this point seems to be
: hair-splitting - but it might also be
: describing the core of the difference
: between approaches of major belief systems.
: Consider the 'emptiness' yearned for on some
: paths: Ridding one's self of 'comparisons';
: ridding one's self of the Self itself(!).
: The mountains becoming mountains again,
: then, would mean to integrate back into
: one's perspective the delightful
: separateness, the comparisons, the joys and
: sorrows, to inhabit one's experiences
: alongside the non-separate. Consider
: experiencing both the emptiness and the
: fullness, at the same time.
: That, to me, is what the net-result
: difference might be between the ti tao zhe
: way, and mine.
: warm regards
The way I understand it, it does not exclude characterizations. It (as I understand it) excludes fundamental characterizations. Another hair of difference.
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