Posted by wulf on 4/16/2011, 6:33 am, in reply to "Re: Chapter 22, Hua Hu Ching "The Secret Teachings of Lao Tzu"
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: Dino Meurs posted this on facebook
: Chapter 22, Hua Hu Ching "The Secret
: Teachings of Lao Tzu
:
: "How can the divine Oneness be seen? In
: beautiful forms, breathtaking wonders, awe-
: inspiring miracles? The Tao is not obliged
: to present itself this way. It is always
: present and always available. When speech is
: exhausted and mind dissolved, it presents
: itself. When clarity and purity are
: cultivated, it reveals itself. When
: sincerity is unconditional, it unveils
: itself. If you are willing to be lived by
: it, you will see it everywhere, even in the
: most ordinary things."
:
: hello Raymond
: Do you have the chinese text of this?
: -
: As far as i can see ...the english text here
: is a copy of Brians "translation"
: - fantasy?
:
: "divine oneness" - what do you
: think is this?
: dao4: laozi 25: ziran!
: -
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: here the URL
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: http://www.cheraglibrary.org/taoist/hua-hu-ching.htm
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: Hi Wulf, I don't have the Chinese and didn't
: have the English location, until now. If I
: find the Chinese I will give my opinion on
: this English.
:
: love,
: rat
:
: Just had to notice that the above quote is
: not translation from original, Hua Hu Jing
: , but from Brian Walker's book for which he
: said himself is inspired by supposed
: "translation" of Hua Hu Jing by
: his guru/teacher Hua-Ching Ni, which is,
: BTW, also not translation of original Hua
: Hu Jing but Ni's fiction. Their books are
: fake and, unfortunately, have nothing to do
: with original Hua Hu Jing .
:
: They are mousetraps for naive and credulous
: newagers.
:
: Too much fuss about something not worth of
: mentioning, and definitely too many empty
: words for a Daoist forum :(
:
: Those who do not read Chinese can
: "taste" its partial translation
: (the real one) in Livia Kohn's The Taoist
: Experience .
:
Raymond - Boyler
Thank you both
searching the chinese of hua hu jing at google one can get a chinese text .
http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/BDLM/sutra/chi_pdf/sutra22/T54n2139.pdf
i suppose that this is the original Hua Hu Jing ?
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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