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Re: Can't say we didn't try...

Posted by rat on 4/13/2011, 8:53 am, in reply to "Can't say we didn't try..."
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: --Previous Message--
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: Hi Josef
:
: I did not say "don't respond,"
: I said you might not want to read them.
:
: Hi, rat. Well, I guess I lumped them
: together, "might not want to read
: them" pretty much includes not
: responding. Responding without reading would
: be trippy. :-)
:
: You said in response to my post: "My
: own (yes, we don't agree on this) take is
: that we think entirely too much, that it is
: a tangled mess of conflicting thought that
: messes up our simple natures which are
: intrinsically social, responsive, and
: essentially "good" by all measures
: we know."
:
: I took that as a suggestion that it was not
: so useful to analyze these things, which of
: course I am constantly doing. And I agree
: that there is merit to your view. I think
: your view is worthwhile, at least as
: worthwhile as mine.
:
: Despite many, many years (ten?) of both of
: us sincerely trying to communicate, we don't
: really agree on some essentials, and
: continued effort seems to lead to a sense of
: conflict. One rather defining difference
: seems to me your use of value judgments,
: "am I doing net-good", "you
: may be right; I may be wrong",
: "your view is worthwhile as mine",
: etc. In reading posts I tend to 'listen' for
: reality as I experience it, my value
: judgment seldom going beyond what's
: useful/not useful to read or say.
:
: After so many years of missing each others'
: points, theres's no good/not good,
: right/wrong, or worthines/unworthiness I can
: see, but I can see it really isn't very
: useful, we have afterall given it a good
: college try. I'll leave you to it, with real
: respect, rat...
:
: josef
:
:
:
:
Thanks for your thoughts josef.

love,
rat

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Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - rat 4/7/2011, 5:11 pm
- Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - rene 4/8/2011, 4:11 pm
  - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - ButchO 4/8/2011, 9:22 pm
    - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - rat 4/9/2011, 9:36 am
      - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - ButchO 4/11/2011, 9:33 pm
        
        Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - rat 4/13/2011, 9:42 am
- beihai ruo's answer (utf 8) - wulf 4/9/2011, 10:04 am
  - Re: beihai ruo's answer (utf 8) - rat 4/9/2011, 10:38 am
- Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - josef 4/10/2011, 8:15 am
  - p.s. - josef 4/10/2011, 8:27 am
    - Re: p.s. - rat 4/10/2011, 8:52 am
      - Re: p.s. - josef 4/10/2011, 9:05 am
        
        p.p.s.. - josef 4/10/2011, 9:13 am
        
        Re: p.p.s.. - rat 4/10/2011, 9:30 am
        
        Re: p.p.s.. - josef 4/10/2011, 9:41 am
        
        Re: p.p.s.. - josef 4/10/2011, 10:32 am
        
        Re: p.p.s.. - rat 4/10/2011, 2:22 pm
        
        Can't say we didn't try... - josef 4/11/2011, 9:01 am
        
        Re: Can't say we didn't try... - ButchO 4/12/2011, 6:51 am
        
        ZPF - josef 4/12/2011, 8:03 am
        
        Re: ZPF - josef 4/12/2011, 8:29 am
        
        more on the subject - josef 4/12/2011, 8:58 am
        
        more - josef 4/12/2011, 9:24 am
        
        Re: more - ButchO 4/13/2011, 8:02 am
        
        Re: ZPF - gar 4/12/2011, 5:27 pm
        
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        Re: Can't say we didn't try... - rat 4/13/2011, 8:53 am
        
        Re: Can't say we didn't try... - josef 4/13/2011, 9:09 am
        
        Re: Can't say we didn't try... - rat 4/13/2011, 9:40 am
        
        Re: Can't say we didn't try... - josef 4/13/2011, 11:14 am
        
        words - josef 4/13/2011, 12:48 pm
        
        Re: words - rat 4/13/2011, 1:26 pm
        
        Re: words - josef 4/13/2011, 11:37 pm
        
        Re: words - rat 4/14/2011, 5:18 am
        
        Re: words - gar 4/14/2011, 5:30 am
        
        Re: words - rat 4/14/2011, 5:49 am
        
        Re: words - gar 4/14/2011, 5:23 am
        
        Re: words - rat 4/14/2011, 5:53 am
        
        Re: words - josef 4/15/2011, 10:56 am
        
        Re: words - rene 4/15/2011, 11:23 am
      - Re: p.s. - isabeau 4/21/2011, 11:52 am
- Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - Nina 4/12/2011, 8:06 pm
  - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - ButchO 4/13/2011, 6:40 am
    - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - Nina 4/13/2011, 8:38 pm
      - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - gar 4/14/2011, 5:43 am
      - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - ButchO 4/17/2011, 9:11 pm
  - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - rat 4/13/2011, 8:51 am
    - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - Nina 4/13/2011, 8:42 pm
      - Re: Can I be sure I am doing good, on balance? - rat 4/14/2011, 5:11 am
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : Hi Josef : : I did not say "don't respond," : I said you might not want to read them. : : Hi, rat. Well, I guess I lumped them : together, "might not want to read : them" pretty much includes not : responding. Responding without reading would : be trippy. :-) : : You said in response to my post: "My : own (yes, we don't agree on this) take is : that we think entirely too much, that it is : a tangled mess of conflicting thought that : messes up our simple natures which are : intrinsically social, responsive, and : essentially "good" by all measures : we know." : : I took that as a suggestion that it was not : so useful to analyze these things, which of : course I am constantly doing. And I agree : that there is merit to your view. I think : your view is worthwhile, at least as : worthwhile as mine. : : Despite many, many years (ten?) of both of : us sincerely trying to communicate, we don't : really agree on some essentials, and : continued effort seems to lead to a sense of : conflict. One rather defining difference : seems to me your use of value judgments, : "am I doing net-good", "you : may be right; I may be wrong", : "your view is worthwhile as mine", : etc. In reading posts I tend to 'listen' for : reality as I experience it, my value : judgment seldom going beyond what's : useful/not useful to read or say. : : After so many years of missing each others' : points, theres's no good/not good, : right/wrong, or worthines/unworthiness I can : see, but I can see it really isn't very : useful, we have afterall given it a good : college try. I'll leave you to it, with real : respect, rat... : : josef : : : : : Thanks for your thoughts josef. : : love, : rat :

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