Posted by Butcho
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on 4/4/2011, 8:47 am, in reply to "Re: xiao le utf 8"
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: Do you know that it also worked
: well for Zhuangzi?
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: Raymond
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: Do you like to post a quote of Zhuangzi
: demonstrating this?
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: Hi Wulf
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: 以道觀之,物無貴賤;以物觀之,自貴而相賤
: Yi dao guan zhi, wu wu gui jian, yi wu guan
: zhi, zi gui er xiang jian.
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: "From the dao's view no creature is
: noble nor mean, from a creature's view it is
: noble and others are mean."
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: An example of "mean" is shit.
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: love,
: rat
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: Raymond (UTF 8)
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: Thank you
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: It is interesting to read this quote in the
: context of Zhuangzi 17...autumn floods (Mair
: page 152)
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: 以道觀之,物无貴賤;
: Mair: Aus der Sicht des Weges sind die Dinge
: weder wertvoll noch wertlos.
: observed in the light of the way, things are
: neither prized nor dispised;
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: using dao for comprehending..- the yi yin yi
: yang ... the not ending change of once left
: once right... things are neither valuable
: nor worthless (neither gold nor shit)
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: 以物觀之,自貴而相賤;
: Mair: Aus der Sicht der Dinge wertschätzen
: diese sich selbst und geringschätzen die
: anderen.
: observed in the light of the things, they
: prize themselves and dispite others,...
: ---
: some lines before we can find:
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: 以其至小。
: yi3 qi2 zhi4 xiao3
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: 求窮其至大之域。
: qiu2 qiong2 qi2 zhi4 da4 zhi1 yu4
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: 是故迷亂而不能自得也。
: shi4 gu4 mi2 luan4 er2 bu4 neng2 zi4 de2 ye3
: Jäger:
: Trotzdem versucht er mit etwas so Kleinem
: (wie seinem Wissen und Lebenserfahrung) die
: Dimension des Größten zu erfassen.
: Daher ist er so durcheinander und verwirrt
: und vermag nicht einmal, sich selbst zu
: begreifen.
: ---
: (human being) seeks- using his small
: knowledge and small experience - to
: comprehend the dimension of the very big...
: therefore he is confused and is not able to
: comprehend himself ...
: ---
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: Right Wulf, the small experience fails to
: see the value of gold and shit is the same.
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: love,
: rat
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rat,
I will gladly trade you 10 pounds of shit for 10 pounds of gold.
You come up with the gold, and I will see what I can do about the shit. Might need to eat a few prunes. Might need a day or two.
So, have you ordered my new Cadillac yet?
ButchO
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