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Re: xiao le utf 8

Posted by rat on 3/29/2011, 7:01 am, in reply to "Re: xiao le utf 8"
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: We learn that the daoguan
: sees everything with immutable value.
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: love,
: rat
:
: Compared to what, then? Everything with
: immutable value or nothing with any value at
: all...what/whose judgment chooses? And is
: there any difference??
:
: The notion of value is relative; daoguan
: view wouldn't be about "seeing
: everything with immutable value", (imo,
: respectfully). It doesn't seem one can have
: it one way over the other, the mere mention
: of value infers a subjective measure, yes?
:
: josef
:
Hi josef

Definitely subjective josef. By the way I am ignorant of any absolutely objective data except what Plotinus said: "I know I am, but I don't know what I am." On the other hand, I do not know whether or not you have some objective data.

Practical value: Is it experentially/practically useful to embody the dao, as ZZ suggests? Do I enjoy it?

If so, he tells me, everything will have use for me, everything that happens to me, every object I encounter will have the same "gui," the same value. Shit will be as useful as gold.

But that's only the way I read the notion of daoguan. Your reading has just as much validity as mine, imo. And is just as potentially useful (valuable) to me.

love,
rat

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- xiao le utf 8 - wulf 3/27/2011, 9:35 am
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    - Re: xiao le utf 8 - wulf 3/28/2011, 8:02 am
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        Re: xiao le utf 8 - wulf 3/29/2011, 7:37 am
        
        Re: xiao le utf 8 - rat 3/29/2011, 8:48 am
        
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        Re: xiao le utf 8 - rat 4/2/2011, 11:08 am
        
        Re: xiao le utf 8 - wulf 4/3/2011, 10:49 am
        
        Re: xiao le utf 8 - rat 4/4/2011, 5:11 am
        
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : We learn that the daoguan : sees everything with immutable value. : : love, : rat : : Compared to what, then? Everything with : immutable value or nothing with any value at : all...what/whose judgment chooses? And is : there any difference?? : : The notion of value is relative; daoguan : view wouldn't be about "seeing : everything with immutable value", (imo, : respectfully). It doesn't seem one can have : it one way over the other, the mere mention : of value infers a subjective measure, yes? : : josef : : Hi josef : : Definitely subjective josef. By the way : I am ignorant of any absolutely objective : data except what Plotinus said: "I know : I am, but I don't know what I am." On : the other hand, I do not know whether or not : you have some objective data. : : Practical value: Is it : experentially/practically useful to embody : the dao, as ZZ suggests? Do I enjoy it? : : If so, he tells me, everything will have use : for me, everything that happens to me, every : object I encounter will have the same : "gui," the same value. Shit will : be as useful as gold. : : But that's only the way I read the notion of : daoguan. Your reading has just as much : validity as mine, imo. And is just as : potentially useful (valuable) to me. : : love, : rat :

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