Re: Balancing ID, Ego, and Super Ego
Posted by gar on 12/11/2009, 11:37 am, in reply to "Re: Balancing ID, Ego, and Super Ego"
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: But, how does true self present itself to
: us, if not in consciousness. Who is without
: in peace,
: Oh, gar, even the word consciousness has
: different connotations in cross traditions,
: and I might argue true self doesn't
: "present itself to us" at all, but
: that would be meaningless, too.
: We're trying to put verbiage onto
: experience, and it doesn't work well. I'll
: settle for, not willing to define
: consciousness, the use of awareness.
: Awareness just is. I use the words true self
: to represent what remains when the
: superfluous accretions of thought/memory are
: removed from awareness.
: But trying to rework concepts into new
: concepts or better concepts is still stuck
: in reification, which is entirely
: counter-productive in learning the essence
: of mind in reality. It just is a waste of
: time. We try, in order to communicate, but
: frankly, the more words are used, the more
: reality spirals away and becomes mentation.
: Experience matters. (imo) We can speak of
: that as clearly as words will serve (not
: much), that's it.
: I seriously doubt Freud and Lao Tzu would
: have any patience or interest in each other,
: or be able to find any common ground to
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