
Posted by rat on 11/6/2009, 7:54 am, in reply to "Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr"
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: Rat,
: I think one needs to be careful not to fall
: into one of the classic problems of western
: philosophical thought, the true or perfect
: representations of thoughts and ideas (no
: title pun intended)
:
: This thought was drawn into question, by the
: argument of the dirty floor, is there a
: perfect dirty floor? Perhaps mysticism
: trying to be related to others is like
: trying to translate a personal language, the
: idea comes threw only in a larger sense.
:
: Everyone has mental maps, love maps,
: experience maps and maps of mystical
: insight. As we travel and meet fellow
: travelers we can quickly gaze on parts of
: each others maps we are familiar with but
: some stuff is going to be mystery because
: we've never been there ourselves.
:
: To extend out the metaphor, when one arrives
: at a destination we would compare what's on
: the map to the actual place and ask fellow
: travelers if this is indeed the destination.
: Sometimes we go clear off our map, that's
: when we do research and study to draw new
: parts. Never perfect and hard for others to
: understand.
:
: redturtle
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I agree red turtle. My sense is that I am unable to say anything for sure, except that I am sure that there is something that exists and that it is aware of it's noticing it's existence.
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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