Tao Speaks: Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism

Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism

Posted by ren ying on 11/5/2009, 10:00 am, in reply to "The Door to Apophatic Mysticism"
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--Previous Message--
...:
: So the question is, rat, how do you open the
: door to Apophatic Mysticism?
:
: in peace,
: gar
:
:
Gar...
this is very interesting question...
i hope rat will give some informations..
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what does mean "mystic for you"?
-------
for me
-
mystic is defined as a -right next to - access to "god"
-
the chinese character le is explaining how we get access to le:
below you have the character mu = tree - symbolizing a power of life --- developping balanced --- using branches going towards all directions -
above centered you have the character bai2 - the picture of a sun - symbolizing light...
above left and right you have the character yao depicting silkworm spinning / cocoons - symbolizing the power of life - using polarized energy for harmonizing...
-
practizing this - using polarized energy - as it is elaborated in daodejing and yijing -
you - wu // yin - yang // opposing complementing phenomena - living using both wings - we can harmonize to zile - a condition of right next access - direct access - to dao4 - zi ran - nature
---
thus we can say
the experience of zile is independent of a mystic experience...
---
???????????????

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here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - rat 11/4/2009, 1:18 pm
- Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - gar 11/4/2009, 2:40 pm
  - Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - rat 11/6/2009, 7:41 am
- Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - Nina 11/4/2009, 7:38 pm
  - Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - rat 11/6/2009, 7:46 am
- Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - redturtle 11/5/2009, 4:15 am
  - Re: here's a nearly non-philosophical one for Garr - rat 11/6/2009, 7:54 am
- The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - gar 11/5/2009, 7:57 am
  - Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - ren ying 11/5/2009, 10:00 am
    - Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - gar 11/5/2009, 11:28 am
      - Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - ren ying 11/6/2009, 2:16 am
        
        Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - gar 11/6/2009, 5:26 am
        
        terms - ren ying 11/6/2009, 5:46 am
        
        door to emptying the mind of all negative judgements.... - ren ying 11/6/2009, 6:07 am
        
        Re: door to emptying the mind of all negative judgements.... - gar 11/6/2009, 6:16 am
        
        a quote - ren ying 11/8/2009, 2:30 am
        
        Re: a quote - gar 11/8/2009, 5:00 am
        
        qi and apophatic practice - ren ying 11/9/2009, 2:12 am
        
        Re: qi and apophatic practice - gar 11/9/2009, 4:44 am
        
        imagination of qi? - ren ying 11/9/2009, 8:47 am
        
        Re: qi and apophatic practice - josef 11/9/2009, 9:25 am
        
        Re: qi and apophatic practice - gar 11/9/2009, 9:42 am
        
        Re: qi and apophatic practice - josef 11/9/2009, 10:55 am
  - Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - rat 11/6/2009, 7:51 am
    - Re: The Door to Apophatic Mysticism - gar 11/6/2009, 8:50 am
      - keeping score - rat 11/9/2009, 6:16 am
        
        P.S. I learned a deeper understanding of that from Rene - rat 11/9/2009, 6:19 am
        
        Re: P.S. I learned a deeper understanding of that from Rene - josef 11/9/2009, 4:02 pm
        
        Re: P.S. I learned a deeper understanding of that from Rene - rat 11/9/2009, 6:41 pm
        
        Re: P.S. I learned a deeper understanding of that from Rene - Butcho 11/9/2009, 7:30 pm
        
        Re: P.S. I learned a deeper understanding of that from Rene - josef 11/9/2009, 7:40 pm
        
        Re: P.S. I learned a deeper understanding of that from Rene - gar 11/11/2009, 7:55 am
        
        without scores - ren ying 11/11/2009, 9:35 am
        
        Re: without scores - gar 11/11/2009, 10:40 am
        
        innate? - ren ying 11/11/2009, 3:11 pm
    - The Backdoor is Open. - Rufus T. Firefly 11/6/2009, 10:07 pm
      - Re: The Backdoor is Open. - gar 11/8/2009, 5:31 am
        
        Re: The Backdoor is Open. - Butcho 11/8/2009, 8:10 am
        
        violation of wu wei - rat 11/9/2009, 6:03 am
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - Butcho 11/9/2009, 8:30 am
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - rat 11/9/2009, 9:07 am
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - gar 11/9/2009, 9:21 am
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - rat 11/9/2009, 1:33 pm
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - gar 11/9/2009, 1:48 pm
        
        horse beatings - rat 11/9/2009, 6:44 pm
        
        Re: horse beatings - gar 11/10/2009, 6:09 am
        
        Re: horse beatings - rat 11/11/2009, 1:25 pm
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - josef 11/9/2009, 3:24 pm
        
        definition of selfless - rat 11/9/2009, 5:33 pm
        
        Re: definition of selfless - josef 11/9/2009, 7:52 pm
        
        Re: definition of selfless - Butcho 11/9/2009, 10:39 pm
        
        Re: definition of selfless - josef 11/10/2009, 7:56 am
        
        Selfless Selfishness - Butcho 11/10/2009, 9:47 am
        
        Re: violation of wu wei - josef 11/9/2009, 9:19 am
        
        correction - josef 11/9/2009, 9:22 am
        
        Breathe-in, breathe-out. - Butcho 11/9/2009, 10:12 pm
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--Previous Message-- : : --Previous Message-- : ...: : So the question is, rat, how do you open the : door to Apophatic Mysticism? : : in peace, : gar : : : Gar... : this is very interesting question... : i hope rat will give some informations.. : - : what does mean "mystic for you"? : ------- : for me : - : mystic is defined as a -right next to - : access to "god" : - : the chinese character le is explaining how : we get access to le: : below you have the character mu = tree - : symbolizing a power of life --- developping : balanced --- using branches going towards : all directions - : above centered you have the character bai2 : - the picture of a sun - symbolizing : light... : above left and right you have the character : yao depicting silkworm spinning / cocoons : - symbolizing the power of life - using : polarized energy for harmonizing... : - : practizing this - using polarized energy - : as it is elaborated in daodejing and yijing : - : you - wu // yin - yang // opposing : complementing phenomena - living using both : wings - we can harmonize to zile - a : condition of right next access - direct : access - to dao4 - zi ran - nature : --- : thus we can say : the experience of zile is independent of a : mystic experience... : --- : ??????????????? :

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