Tao Speaks: Re: Wu-wei, Self, Ego

Re: Wu-wei, Self, Ego

Posted by Aaron on 7/28/2009, 9:32 am, in reply to "Wu-wei, Self, Ego"
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--Previous Message--
: Greetings all,
:
: A funny thing about awareness is, once it
: appears, it's always there.
:
: Having read Tor Norretranders book,
: "The User Illusion, Cutting
: consciousness down to size,"
: his ideas about (self)? keep popping up.
:
: From the Denver Post;
:
: "Not long ago, people thought of
: emotions as old stuff, as just feelings —
: feelings that had little to do with rational
: decision-making or that got in the way of
: it," said Dr. Antonio Damasio, director
: of the Brain and Creativity Institute at the
: University of Southern California. "Now
: that position has reversed. We understand
: emotions as practical action programs that
: work to solve a problem, often before we're
: conscious of it. These processes are at work
: continually, in pilots, leaders of
: expeditions, parents, all of us."
:
: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12926853
:
: From User Illusion,page 267.
:
: " The American psychologist Abraham
: Maslow came up with the term 'peak
: experiences' to describe highs like these.
: Maslow describes as Taoistic the state of
: awareness in which you do not desire to
: change that which you are aware: The
: Taoistic approach to learning about the
: nature of things...is...an attitude to
: nature rather than a technique in the
: ordinary sense.
:
: Maslow writes. "Real receptivity of the
: Taoistic sort is a difficult achievement.
: To be able to listen- without presupposing,
: classifying, improving, controverting,
: evaluating, approving or disapproving,
: without dueling what is being said... such
: listening is rare. Not that Maslow thinks we
: should use solely this strategy of
: noninterference in our awareness: Science
: has the two poles of experiencing and
: comprehending concreteness and also of
: organizing the welter of concreteness into
: graspable abstractions."
:
: in peace,
: gar
:
I like (and agree) with the idea that the Taoistic approach is an attitude rather than a technique. I think that's why it's so hard to quantify some of the basic ideas, we tend to want to respond logically, when we really should be responding intuitively.

Aaron

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Wu-wei, Self, Ego - gar 7/28/2009, 5:05 am
- Re: Wu-wei, Self, Ego - Aaron 7/28/2009, 9:32 am
  - Re: Wu-wei, Self, Ego - josef 7/28/2009, 11:41 am
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Greetings all, : : A funny thing about awareness is, once it : appears, it's always there. : : Having read Tor Norretranders book, : "The User Illusion, Cutting : consciousness down to size," : his ideas about (self)? keep popping up. : : From the Denver Post; : : "Not long ago, people thought of : emotions as old stuff, as just feelings — : feelings that had little to do with rational : decision-making or that got in the way of : it," said Dr. Antonio Damasio, director : of the Brain and Creativity Institute at the : University of Southern California. "Now : that position has reversed. We understand : emotions as practical action programs that : work to solve a problem, often before we're : conscious of it. These processes are at work : continually, in pilots, leaders of : expeditions, parents, all of us." : : http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12926853 : : From User Illusion,page 267. : : " The American psychologist Abraham : Maslow came up with the term 'peak : experiences' to describe highs like these. : Maslow describes as Taoistic the state of : awareness in which you do not desire to : change that which you are aware: The : Taoistic approach to learning about the : nature of things...is...an attitude to : nature rather than a technique in the : ordinary sense. : : Maslow writes. "Real receptivity of the : Taoistic sort is a difficult achievement. : To be able to listen- without presupposing, : classifying, improving, controverting, : evaluating, approving or disapproving, : without dueling what is being said... such : listening is rare. Not that Maslow thinks we : should use solely this strategy of : noninterference in our awareness: Science : has the two poles of experiencing and : comprehending concreteness and also of : organizing the welter of concreteness into : graspable abstractions." : : in peace, : gar : : I like (and agree) with the idea that the : Taoistic approach is an attitude rather than : a technique. I think that's why it's so hard : to quantify some of the basic ideas, we tend : to want to respond logically, when we really : should be responding intuitively. : : Aaron :

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