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Posted by Wayne L
on 7/20/2009, 3:12 pm, in reply to "Re: an essential feature of Dao"
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: Is the Buddha's Dharma the same as Lao Tzu's
: Tao?
:
: If that is your question I would say that
: they are both pointing at the same moon in
: their own way.
There is only one way to, reason for, purpose in, pointing at the Moon.
You can not point at the moon in your own way.
Those that know why they point at the moon know that there is but one reason for pointing at the moon; those not knowing why they point at the Moon do not having a clue, are not being very bright.
Pointing at the Moon is merely Symbolic, there being many words, objects, symbolic of the same thing; The Same Thing being the Second Great Light that was Created when the Day was separated from the Night; The second Great Light being the Light that was separated our from in between Night and Day, Twice Light.
: As for me the key is to look for that which
: underlies or unites seeming opposites. From
: the Tao.... comes the One and the Many. The
: Tao is the underlying unity of the One and
: the Many. Of Yin and Yang, of yin/yang.
:
: When we focus on the One at the expense of
: the Many, or on the Many at the expense of
: the One, we are guilty of dualistic
: thinking. The thinking that one pole of a
: polarity is separate from its opposite pole.
: That it is yin and yang, when it is actually
: yin/yang. Opposite non-opposites.
:
: So I do not look to the One, rather, I look
: to the oneness, the underlying unity of
: existence. This is where I believe one comes
: directly into contact with the nondual, call
: it the Tao, or Dharma, or even.. dare I say
: it... God. Just different words for the same
: underlying unity of existence, imo. Our
: tendency, dualistic thinking, is to make a
: religion of such words and in the process
: fail to see the moon for our concepts of the
: moon. We are lost in our thoughts.
:
: "From the Tao comes the One and the
: Many". "From the first totality is
: a unitive one". Hui-neng. "The
: Father and I are a unitive one". Jesus.
: Same thing. Each Master is pointing to the
: underlying unity of existence as the
: fundamental ground that existence stands or
: abides in. The Axis of the wheel. That part
: of the wheel that does not move moves
: everything that does move. The subtle moves
: the obvious. The obvious only moves the
: obvious.
:
: The Cartesian paradigm, "I think,
: therefore I am", has been found
: wanting. In truth all it amounts to is
: "I think, therefore I think I am".
: To vacillation between extremes. From doubt
: to certainty and back again and again and so
: on and so forth. Dualistic thinking is
: circular. Nondualistic thinking is more like
: a spiral.
:
: "The lamp of the body is the eye: if
: therefore thine eye be nondualistic, thy
: 'whole' body shall be full of light. But if
: thine eye be dualistic, thy whole body shall
: be full of darkness". Jesus.
:
: As long as we see through dualistic eyes it
: is as if we see through a glass darkly. The
: knowledge of good and evil spoken of in the
: Bible is the thinking that good can exist
: without evil. That any concept, no matter
: how noble, can exist without its opposite.
: If or no other reason than contrast. The
: life of the conditioned mind, of the
: egoistic mind, the mind of this and that
: rather than the awareness of this/that tends
: to be either bitter or sweet when in fact
: life is bitter/sweet.
:
: So the sagely points to the /. Each in his
: or her own way.
:
: "/".
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: Butcho
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