Tao Speaks: the trouble with tribbles

the trouble with tribbles

Posted by Lian Dao on 7/6/2009, 4:08 pm, in reply to "Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges!"
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--Previous Message--
:
: Steve,
:
: The only thing that thinks there is no
: problem with the conditioned mind is the
: conditioned mind.
:
: The conditioned mind is a straw dog. A
: mistaken case of identity good for nothing
: but burning within the light of awareness.
:
: There are many triggering agents where
: mystical insight is concerned. The
: conditioned mind would ban them all. Are you
: trying to ban me? Do my words.... bother
: you?
:
: Maybe it would be better if I let this
: sleeping straw dog lie.
:
: Nah! Kicking you in the middle of your
: rationalizations is good for both of us. You
: might wake up yet and I get to practice on
: the dead.
:
: Butcho
:
: --------------------------
:
: Socially conscious as I am, Butcho, I'm
: concerned with the ramifications of guys
: like you running around telling people
: there's something wrong with their minds.
: Something wrong with how their lives are
: playing out.
:
: One perceives 'mistaken identity' only when
: one lives in an essentially problematic
: universe. As you do, apparently.
:
: My universe is fine as is, thank you.
:
:
:

Maybe the problem is simply in Oak Tree's head?

Claiming to be 'unconditioned' is very much a symptomn of the 'conditioned' mind.

How do i know this?

Because i'm 'unconditioned'.

The sheer irony of Oak Tree's dualistic worldview which divides up his precious 'oneness' into conditional/unconditional and awake/asleep, hasn't even been noticed by the Unconditioned One. Surely there's only 'one' mind Butch?

And if he's still practicing after all this time, maybe he should stop practicing and start doing it properly?

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Message Thread:

question to Butch - ren ying 6/20/2009, 2:18 am
- Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/20/2009, 4:37 pm
  - Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/20/2009, 6:56 pm
    - Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/21/2009, 5:48 pm
      - Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/21/2009, 6:11 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/21/2009, 9:17 pm
        
        Excuses - gar 6/22/2009, 4:25 am
        
        Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/22/2009, 7:06 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/23/2009, 9:22 am
        
        Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/23/2009, 8:27 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/24/2009, 9:12 am
        
        Re: question to Butch - Lian Dao 6/24/2009, 4:01 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Butcho 6/24/2009, 9:42 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Lian Dao 6/25/2009, 12:15 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Nina 6/25/2009, 5:02 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Lian Dao 6/26/2009, 12:16 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Nina 6/26/2009, 7:09 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/25/2009, 4:59 pm
        
        I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/25/2009, 7:14 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Nina 6/25/2009, 8:02 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/25/2009, 9:39 pm
        
        Out in left field - Nina 6/26/2009, 7:24 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 6/26/2009, 9:55 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Nina 6/28/2009, 9:04 am
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 7/3/2009, 5:54 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Nina 7/3/2009, 10:05 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 7/4/2009, 2:11 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Nina 7/5/2009, 7:27 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 7/5/2009, 8:15 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 6/26/2009, 9:06 am
        
        This might help...... - Nina 6/26/2009, 7:29 pm
        
        wisdom for sale, idiots only apply - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 9:16 am
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/26/2009, 9:57 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 6/27/2009, 12:21 pm
        
        religion is the politicisation of spirituality - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 4:00 pm
        
        Re: religion is the politicisation of spirituality - Steve 6/27/2009, 4:26 pm
        
        fear of a black planet - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 5:29 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/3/2009, 5:47 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/4/2009, 8:45 am
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/4/2009, 4:58 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/5/2009, 8:45 am
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/5/2009, 3:36 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/5/2009, 3:59 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/5/2009, 8:27 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/6/2009, 8:22 am
        
        the trouble with tribbles - Lian Dao 7/6/2009, 4:08 pm
        
        Re: the trouble with tribbles - Steve 7/6/2009, 4:56 pm
        
        Re: the trouble with tribbles - Butcho 7/6/2009, 11:10 pm
        
        the trouble with problems - Lian Dao 7/7/2009, 2:39 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/6/2009, 11:07 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Lian Dao 6/26/2009, 12:25 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/26/2009, 10:15 pm
        
        an amateur zen pastiche - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 9:04 am
        
        Re: an amateur zen pastiche - Butcho 7/3/2009, 6:07 pm
        
        an ever shifting singular point of reference - Lian Dao 7/4/2009, 12:00 pm
        
        Re: an ever shifting singular point of reference - Butcho 7/4/2009, 5:11 pm
        
        chumbawumba - Lian Dao 7/5/2009, 2:41 pm
        
        Re: chumbawumba - Butcho 7/5/2009, 3:47 pm
        
        dolphins were monkeys - Lian Dao 7/5/2009, 4:01 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Nina 7/5/2009, 7:25 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Butcho 7/5/2009, 8:53 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Lian Dao 7/6/2009, 3:55 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Butcho 7/6/2009, 11:12 pm
  - Re: question to Butch - ren ying 6/21/2009, 3:29 am
    - for ren ying - Lian Dao 6/21/2009, 7:12 am
      - Re: for ren ying - gar 6/21/2009, 7:25 am
        
        harm is relative/peace is absolute; cross the abyss - Lian Dao 6/21/2009, 7:35 am
      - Re: for ren ying - ren ying 6/21/2009, 10:30 am
  - another question for Butcho - Steve 6/21/2009, 9:57 am
    - Re: another question for Butcho - Butcho 6/21/2009, 5:43 pm
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : Steve, : : The only thing that thinks there is no : problem with the conditioned mind is the : conditioned mind. : : The conditioned mind is a straw dog. A : mistaken case of identity good for nothing : but burning within the light of awareness. : : There are many triggering agents where : mystical insight is concerned. The : conditioned mind would ban them all. Are you : trying to ban me? Do my words.... bother : you? : : Maybe it would be better if I let this : sleeping straw dog lie. : : Nah! Kicking you in the middle of your : rationalizations is good for both of us. You : might wake up yet and I get to practice on : the dead. : : Butcho : : -------------------------- : : Socially conscious as I am, Butcho, I'm : concerned with the ramifications of guys : like you running around telling people : there's something wrong with their minds. : Something wrong with how their lives are : playing out. : : One perceives 'mistaken identity' only when : one lives in an essentially problematic : universe. As you do, apparently. : : My universe is fine as is, thank you. : : : : : Maybe the problem is simply in Oak Tree's : head? : : Claiming to be 'unconditioned' is very much : a symptomn of the 'conditioned' mind. : : How do i know this? : : Because i'm 'unconditioned'. : : The sheer irony of Oak Tree's dualistic : worldview which divides up his precious : 'oneness' into conditional/unconditional and : awake/asleep, hasn't even been noticed by : the Unconditioned One. Surely there's only : 'one' mind Butch? : : And if he's still practicing after all this : time, maybe he should stop practicing and : start doing it properly? :

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