Tao Speaks: Re: Out in left field

Re: Out in left field

Posted by Butcho on 6/26/2009, 9:55 pm, in reply to "Out in left field"
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:
: "When a society misuses partial
: intelligence and ignores holistic wisdom,
: its people forget the benefits of a plain
: and natural life." Hua Hu Ching.
:
: "Knowledge wandered north to the far
: side of the primordial waters and climbed
: the hills of the absconded rise. There he
: happened to meet NonAction NoWords..."
: Chuang Tzu. #22.
:
: Butcho
:
:
: I'm not making excuses, Butch. I read
: Walker's Hua Hu Ching, and I think it's a
: crock! Why would I have a copy of it?
:
: Words are delightful tools to express what
: we're thinking, feeling, experiencing. I
: say "we" because I enjoy writing
: words and listening to the words of others.
: I think most people (even you) enjoy using
: them too? You do use them a lot here.
:
: WTF is that from Walker's HHC.......
: "holistic wisdom"? "A plain
: natural life"? That's Daoist Religion
: to the max. If you really believe that, why
: don't you go live in a tent, pump your own
: water and weave your own cloth? And you
: might as well throw away your computer
: 'cause there'll be no electricity.
:
: That's not extremist? Suggesting giving up
: all the wonderful things our intelligence
: (and that of others) has provided to bring
: us more joy and happiness?
:
: You might look to Zhuangzi with a more
: tongue-in-cheek attitude. Or not.
:
Nina,

Give me that old time religion,
Give me that old time religion.
If its good enough for Lao Tzu
If its good enough for Chuang Tzu,
Its good enough for me.

If your taoism isn't holistic then it does not embrace the Tao.

If your taoism doesn't take you along a path towards an increasingly simpler and more natural life then it is not Taoism.

Butcho

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Message Thread:

question to Butch - ren ying 6/20/2009, 2:18 am
- Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/20/2009, 4:37 pm
  - Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/20/2009, 6:56 pm
    - Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/21/2009, 5:48 pm
      - Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/21/2009, 6:11 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/21/2009, 9:17 pm
        
        Excuses - gar 6/22/2009, 4:25 am
        
        Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/22/2009, 7:06 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/23/2009, 9:22 am
        
        Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/23/2009, 8:27 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Butcho 6/24/2009, 9:12 am
        
        Re: question to Butch - Lian Dao 6/24/2009, 4:01 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Butcho 6/24/2009, 9:42 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Lian Dao 6/25/2009, 12:15 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Nina 6/25/2009, 5:02 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Lian Dao 6/26/2009, 12:16 pm
        
        Re: question to Lian Dao. - Nina 6/26/2009, 7:09 pm
        
        Re: question to Butch - Nina 6/25/2009, 4:59 pm
        
        I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/25/2009, 7:14 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Nina 6/25/2009, 8:02 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/25/2009, 9:39 pm
        
        Out in left field - Nina 6/26/2009, 7:24 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 6/26/2009, 9:55 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Nina 6/28/2009, 9:04 am
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 7/3/2009, 5:54 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Nina 7/3/2009, 10:05 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 7/4/2009, 2:11 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Nina 7/5/2009, 7:27 pm
        
        Re: Out in left field - Butcho 7/5/2009, 8:15 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 6/26/2009, 9:06 am
        
        This might help...... - Nina 6/26/2009, 7:29 pm
        
        wisdom for sale, idiots only apply - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 9:16 am
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/26/2009, 9:57 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 6/27/2009, 12:21 pm
        
        religion is the politicisation of spirituality - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 4:00 pm
        
        Re: religion is the politicisation of spirituality - Steve 6/27/2009, 4:26 pm
        
        fear of a black planet - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 5:29 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/3/2009, 5:47 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/4/2009, 8:45 am
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/4/2009, 4:58 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/5/2009, 8:45 am
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/5/2009, 3:36 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/5/2009, 3:59 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/5/2009, 8:27 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Steve 7/6/2009, 8:22 am
        
        the trouble with tribbles - Lian Dao 7/6/2009, 4:08 pm
        
        Re: the trouble with tribbles - Steve 7/6/2009, 4:56 pm
        
        Re: the trouble with tribbles - Butcho 7/6/2009, 11:10 pm
        
        the trouble with problems - Lian Dao 7/7/2009, 2:39 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 7/6/2009, 11:07 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Lian Dao 6/26/2009, 12:25 pm
        
        Re: I don't have to show you no stinkin' a' badges! - Butcho 6/26/2009, 10:15 pm
        
        an amateur zen pastiche - Lian Dao 6/27/2009, 9:04 am
        
        Re: an amateur zen pastiche - Butcho 7/3/2009, 6:07 pm
        
        an ever shifting singular point of reference - Lian Dao 7/4/2009, 12:00 pm
        
        Re: an ever shifting singular point of reference - Butcho 7/4/2009, 5:11 pm
        
        chumbawumba - Lian Dao 7/5/2009, 2:41 pm
        
        Re: chumbawumba - Butcho 7/5/2009, 3:47 pm
        
        dolphins were monkeys - Lian Dao 7/5/2009, 4:01 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Nina 7/5/2009, 7:25 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Butcho 7/5/2009, 8:53 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Lian Dao 7/6/2009, 3:55 pm
        
        Re: dolphins were monkeys - Butcho 7/6/2009, 11:12 pm
  - Re: question to Butch - ren ying 6/21/2009, 3:29 am
    - for ren ying - Lian Dao 6/21/2009, 7:12 am
      - Re: for ren ying - gar 6/21/2009, 7:25 am
        
        harm is relative/peace is absolute; cross the abyss - Lian Dao 6/21/2009, 7:35 am
      - Re: for ren ying - ren ying 6/21/2009, 10:30 am
  - another question for Butcho - Steve 6/21/2009, 9:57 am
    - Re: another question for Butcho - Butcho 6/21/2009, 5:43 pm
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--Previous Message-- : : : : "When a society misuses partial : intelligence and ignores holistic wisdom, : its people forget the benefits of a plain : and natural life." Hua Hu Ching. : : "Knowledge wandered north to the far : side of the primordial waters and climbed : the hills of the absconded rise. There he : happened to meet NonAction NoWords..." : Chuang Tzu. #22. : : Butcho : : : I'm not making excuses, Butch. I read : Walker's Hua Hu Ching, and I think it's a : crock! Why would I have a copy of it? : : Words are delightful tools to express what : we're thinking, feeling, experiencing. I : say "we" because I enjoy writing : words and listening to the words of others. : I think most people (even you) enjoy using : them too? You do use them a lot here. : : WTF is that from Walker's HHC....... : "holistic wisdom"? "A plain : natural life"? That's Daoist Religion : to the max. If you really believe that, why : don't you go live in a tent, pump your own : water and weave your own cloth? And you : might as well throw away your computer : 'cause there'll be no electricity. : : That's not extremist? Suggesting giving up : all the wonderful things our intelligence : (and that of others) has provided to bring : us more joy and happiness? : : You might look to Zhuangzi with a more : tongue-in-cheek attitude. Or not. : : Nina, : : Give me that old time religion, : Give me that old time religion. : If its good enough for Lao Tzu : If its good enough for Chuang Tzu, : Its good enough for me. : : If your taoism isn't holistic then it does : not embrace the Tao. : : If your taoism doesn't take you along a path : towards an increasingly simpler and more : natural life then it is not Taoism. : : Butcho :

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