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Posted by Lian Dao on 6/25/2009, 12:15 pm, in reply to "Re: question to Lian Dao."
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: My dearest Butch,
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: The Hua Hu Ching is the sorest piece of
: Taoist propaganda ever inflicted upon the
: world of dust.
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: It's crude and rudimentary attempts to pass
: off Lao Tzu as the 'teacher' of Sakyamuni
: Buddha, the western barbarian 'Prince' in
: the story, has inspired Taoist extermists
: for over a thousand years. It's naive
: attempt to mimic a Buddhist sutra fails on
: more than the scholastic level, and probably
: for this reason Ni's group is one of the
: very few to circulate it.
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: Ni, it should also be noted, is widely
: shunned by 'orthodox' Taoists.
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: But hey,if it works for you..........
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: Lian Dao,
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: Orthodox Taoists. Is that anything like an
: Orthodox Jew? Or an Orthodox Christian? Or
: an Orthodontist?
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: I see nothing extremist in the Hua Hu Ching.
: Can you share with me something from it that
: you consider extreme?
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i do apologise Butch for my slighting your book. i am not a fan of Hua Ching Ni or his business mission. i haven't seen the Walker rendition but i am aware that it was 'based' on Ni's. i am also aware that it forms one of the 'trinity' of Ni's holiest books, the covers of which form an 'altar' to the formost Taoist gods. The fourth, his 'Spiritual Workbook' depicts Ni on the cover as an incarnation of the Immortal, Lu Dong Pin. The inside isn't up to much either.
There are, allegedly, quite a few versions of the 'Classic of the Conversion of the Western Barbarians', to use its English title, all of which are excluded from the traditional (and othodox') Taoist liturgial 'canon' as much as for its promotion of sectarianism (ie anti-buddhism) as for the fact that it was compiled sometime in the 4th century C.E. ( when it first appears) in an attempt to pass off the pseudo-Buddhistic teachings in the book as pure Lao Tzu taught Taoism. More than likely it emerged as an effort to fend off 'foreign' Buddhist thought.
As books go, it has a somewhat ambigious history.
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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