Tao Speaks: Re: he's got the whole world in his arms

Re: he's got the whole world in his arms

Posted by gar on 6/21/2009, 7:48 am, in reply to "he's got the whole world in his arms"
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: Greetings Lian Dao
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: Stumbled across these words this morning.
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: " To describe the world as dusty may
: suggest a lack of enthusiasm for it; indeed
: both Buddhism and later Taoism employ the
: word "dust' to symbolize the dirty
: world from which we should escape. It is
: significant to note, however, that Taoism in
: its true sense calls for identification
: with, not escape from, such a world."
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: From The Way Of Lao Tzu
: (Tao-te ching) Wing-Tsit Chan page 105
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: The question is; Being an observer, is one
: viewing the world as part of self that is to
: be embraced, or merely viewed as illusion?
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: As far as i am aware, Wing-Tsit Chan is very
: much the observer, as a scholar.
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: The 'illusory' nature of the 'world of dust'
: would, to me anyway, indicate its transitory
: and ever-changing reality. Or even on a
: molecular level, its ever-shifting,
: vibrating unsubtantiality.
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: i don't find that 'dirty' but obviously some
: do. i do however find it difficult how we
: could actually 'embrace' that temporality.
: And i don't see how that dampens an
: enthusiasm for it. On the contrary, if
: anything it frees up a whole lot of energy
: that would otherwise be spent trying to
: grasp ans embrace.
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: It seems to me Lian Dao that to
: "embrace" the world is to realize
: we are the world.
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: *A damp but clearly relieved Lian Dao
: staggers onto the beach to collapse on a
: thin track of golden sand. With a single
: digit he scrawls in the sand,'It is the mind
: that frees the mind.'
: before collapsing.*
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As the crabs feast on Lian dao's body they rejoice in, not mind, only body.

in peace,
gar

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Question for Lian Dao - gar 6/20/2009, 5:24 am
- an answer for gar - Lian Dao 6/21/2009, 6:30 am
  - Re: an answer for gar - gar 6/21/2009, 7:30 am
    - he's got the whole world in his arms - Lian Dao 6/21/2009, 7:39 am
      - Re: he's got the whole world in his arms - gar 6/21/2009, 7:48 am
- Re: Question for Lian Dao - Wayne L 6/22/2009, 1:36 pm
  - Re: Question for Lian Dao - gar 6/22/2009, 1:48 pm
    - Re: Question for Lian Dao - Wayne L 6/23/2009, 10:09 am
      - Re: Question for Lian Dao - gar 6/24/2009, 5:18 am
        
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Greetings Lian Dao : : Stumbled across these words this morning. : : " To describe the world as dusty may : suggest a lack of enthusiasm for it; indeed : both Buddhism and later Taoism employ the : word "dust' to symbolize the dirty : world from which we should escape. It is : significant to note, however, that Taoism in : its true sense calls for identification : with, not escape from, such a world." : : From The Way Of Lao Tzu : (Tao-te ching) Wing-Tsit Chan page 105 : : The question is; Being an observer, is one : viewing the world as part of self that is to : be embraced, or merely viewed as illusion? : : : : As far as i am aware, Wing-Tsit Chan is very : much the observer, as a scholar. : : The 'illusory' nature of the 'world of dust' : would, to me anyway, indicate its transitory : and ever-changing reality. Or even on a : molecular level, its ever-shifting, : vibrating unsubtantiality. : : i don't find that 'dirty' but obviously some : do. i do however find it difficult how we : could actually 'embrace' that temporality. : And i don't see how that dampens an : enthusiasm for it. On the contrary, if : anything it frees up a whole lot of energy : that would otherwise be spent trying to : grasp ans embrace. : : It seems to me Lian Dao that to : "embrace" the world is to realize : we are the world. : : : *A damp but clearly relieved Lian Dao : staggers onto the beach to collapse on a : thin track of golden sand. With a single : digit he scrawls in the sand,'It is the mind : that frees the mind.' : before collapsing.* : : As the crabs feast on Lian dao's body they : rejoice in, not mind, only body. : : in peace, : gar :

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