[ Post a Response | Tao Speaks ]
Posted by Lian Dao on 6/21/2009, 6:37 am, in reply to "Re: subject to conditions"
86.152.209.X
--Previous Message--
:
:
: --Previous Message--
:
:
: --Previous Message--
:
: Nature is simply decay and death. i would go
: so far as to suggest that (I) am not nature
: but rather that which animates and is able
: to be aware, to whatever degree, of the
: natural processes that arise and then fall
: away.
:
: Identifying with the phenomena, whether you
: deem it internal or external to your sense
: of me-ness, merely means to cultivate a
: working knowledge of these natural
: processess that lend us a discursive notion
: of an intellectual, emotional or spiritual
: appreciation of the phenomena as it occurs
: both spatially and temporary.
:
: Whether or not one 'cultivates' or not is
: irrelevant, if we simply engage in an
: observation of the natural processes as they
: occur. What should rather be focused on is
: that which is focusing. It is a backward
: glance back to the source in the direction
: of the Tao, whose notion is return.
:
:
: Ahhhhhh....... lovely chapter 16.
:
: I hear you, Lian Dao, about being able to
: observe what naturally happens around me.
: There's still a "me" observing it.
:
: Your 'me' ( and 'mine') is simply the
: function of observation aware that it is
: observing. No big deal. Or as big a deal as
: you choose to make it actually.
:
:
: I also think Laozi is suggesting to me that
: I have a delightful part in the universe
: around me. All I have to do is find what
: "naturally" suits me best and
: enjoy what "naturally" suits all
: the other 10,000 things best.
:
: It's your semblance of selfhood, your ego
: that is suggesting that. Why not choose to
: say that for yourself rather than blame Lao
: Tzu?
:
:
: Hey....... You're the one who brought up
: Laozi's chapter 16, then went on to say a
: lot of things about it using the terms
: "we" and "us". At least
: I kept my response to what "I" and
: "me" got out of it.
:
: I think Freud killed a lot of spontaneity
: when he "discovered" the ego. Too
: many people wondering if what they're doing
: is coming from their ego or not. If it
: makes me happy and sings to my heart, what
: difference does it make where it comes from?
:
: P.S. If you'll note, I used the terms
: "I" and "my" above. :-)
:
:
:
:-S
120
Message Thread:
« Back to thread
"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Webmaster: zentao00@yahoo.com Donations help to support, upgrade and expand the Tao Speaks! community..