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Posted by Nina
on 6/19/2009, 6:36 pm, in reply to "subject to conditions"
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: Nature is simply decay and death. i would go
: so far as to suggest that (I) am not nature
: but rather that which animates and is able
: to be aware, to whatever degree, of the
: natural processes that arise and then fall
: away.
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: Identifying with the phenomena, whether you
: deem it internal or external to your sense
: of me-ness, merely means to cultivate a
: working knowledge of these natural
: processess that lend us a discursive notion
: of an intellectual, emotional or spiritual
: appreciation of the phenomena as it occurs
: both spatially and temporary.
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: Whether or not one 'cultivates' or not is
: irrelevant, if we simply engage in an
: observation of the natural processes as they
: occur. What should rather be focused on is
: that which is focusing. It is a backward
: glance back to the source in the direction
: of the Tao, whose notion is return.
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: Ahhhhhh....... lovely chapter 16.
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: I hear you, Lian Dao, about being able to
: observe what naturally happens around me.
: There's still a "me" observing it.
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: Your 'me' ( and 'mine') is simply the
: function of observation aware that it is
: observing. No big deal. Or as big a deal as
: you choose to make it actually.
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: I also think Laozi is suggesting to me that
: I have a delightful part in the universe
: around me. All I have to do is find what
: "naturally" suits me best and
: enjoy what "naturally" suits all
: the other 10,000 things best.
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: It's your semblance of selfhood, your ego
: that is suggesting that. Why not choose to
: say that for yourself rather than blame Lao
: Tzu?
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Hey....... You're the one who brought up Laozi's chapter 16, then went on to say a lot of things about it using the terms "we" and "us". At least I kept my response to what "I" and "me" got out of it.
I think Freud killed a lot of spontaneity when he "discovered" the ego. Too many people wondering if what they're doing is coming from their ego or not. If it makes me happy and sings to my heart, what difference does it make where it comes from?
P.S. If you'll note, I used the terms "I" and "my" above. :-)
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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