Tao Speaks: Re: TTC 16

Re: TTC 16

Posted by Steve on 6/18/2009, 8:45 pm, in reply to "TTC 16"
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: Nature is simply decay and death. i would go
: so far as to suggest that (I) am not nature
: but rather that which animates and is able
: to be aware, to whatever degree, of the
: natural processes that arise and then fall
: away.
:
: Identifying with the phenomena, whether you
: deem it internal or external to your sense
: of me-ness, merely means to cultivate a
: working knowledge of these natural
: processess that lend us a discursive notion
: of an intellectual, emotional or spiritual
: appreciation of the phenomena as it occurs
: both spatially and temporary.
:
: Whether or not one 'cultivates' or not is
: irrelevant, if we simply engage in an
: observation of the natural processes as they
: occur. What should rather be focused on is
: that which is focusing. It is a backward
: glance back to the source in the direction
: of the Tao, whose notion is return.

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"Nature is simply decay and death."

Some Buddhist schools maintain that, yes, but not all. Some point to a joyous cosmology, where nature simultaneously creates and destroys. Gives, and takes away. In the same moment.

Focusing on the 'decay' and 'taking away' parts leads, logically, to a desire for release. Focusing on the bigger picture can lead to underlying contentment in the moment, whatever the moment brings.

"Whether or not one 'cultivates' or not is irrelevant, if we simply engage in an observation of the natural processes as they occur. What should rather be focused on is that which is focusing. It is a backward glance back to the source in the direction of the Tao, whose notion is return."

Absolutely.

I'd suggest that the whole of wisdom consists in the ability to observe, and that the ability comes pre-installed in the human merchandise.

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--Previous Message-- : : Nature is simply decay and death. i would go : so far as to suggest that (I) am not nature : but rather that which animates and is able : to be aware, to whatever degree, of the : natural processes that arise and then fall : away. : : Identifying with the phenomena, whether you : deem it internal or external to your sense : of me-ness, merely means to cultivate a : working knowledge of these natural : processess that lend us a discursive notion : of an intellectual, emotional or spiritual : appreciation of the phenomena as it occurs : both spatially and temporary. : : Whether or not one 'cultivates' or not is : irrelevant, if we simply engage in an : observation of the natural processes as they : occur. What should rather be focused on is : that which is focusing. It is a backward : glance back to the source in the direction : of the Tao, whose notion is return. : : --------------------------- : : "Nature is simply decay and : death." : : Some Buddhist schools maintain that, yes, : but not all. Some point to a joyous : cosmology, where nature simultaneously : creates and destroys. Gives, and takes : away. In the same moment. : : Focusing on the 'decay' and 'taking away' : parts leads, logically, to a desire for : release. Focusing on the bigger picture can : lead to underlying contentment in the : moment, whatever the moment brings. : : "Whether or not one 'cultivates' or not : is irrelevant, if we simply engage in an : observation of the natural processes as they : occur. What should rather be focused on is : that which is focusing. It is a backward : glance back to the source in the direction : of the Tao, whose notion is return." : : Absolutely. : : I'd suggest that the whole of wisdom : consists in the ability to observe, and that : the ability comes pre-installed in the human : merchandise. : : : : : : :

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