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Posted by Butcho
on 6/17/2009, 5:24 pm
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Steve and I have a running conversation about whether or not anything needs to be done or not. Steve argues that nothing needs to be done. I argue that something does. To cultivate or not to cultivate.
I like to think that most if not all of our words and those of others here on this topic have for the most part been "friendly". For lack of a more unitive word.
But still we keep coming back to this seemingly fundamental disagreement between two seemingly opposite points of view. What to do? Perhaps a compromise! Perhaps there is a middle way. An underlying unity.
Maybe Steve and I and anyone else that cares (josef) and others, ok, and gar too, can come to some sort of confluence on the matter.
"Wu-wei". The Tao does nothing, and yet everything is done. Wu-wei is not "inaction" or "nonaction". Rather, wu-wei is "unforced" action. Natural action. Action in accord with the ways of the eternal Tao as they are revealed by the nature of Nature. Action that is not in accord with the watercourse way of the Tao is contrived, forced. Action that is in accord, is unforced, natural, spontaneous.
I would submit that meditation is that state of no-mind where nothing is forced. That it is not that anything needs nor does not need to be done, rather that whatever is done is not forced. With that said I will not try to force my point and let others, if they wish, chime in. Maybe an old straw dog can learn a new trick.
Butcho
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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