Tao Speaks: Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian?

Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian?

Posted by Butcho on 6/13/2009, 6:42 am, in reply to "Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian?"
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--Previous Message--
:
: Friends,
:
: "There is now no distinction neither
: Jew nor Greek,
: there is neither slave nor free,
: there is not male and female;
: for you are all one in Christ Jesus".
:
: Galatians 3:28 Amplified Bible
:
:
: Butcho
:
: -------------------------------
:
: Nothing wrong with being a Christian or a
: Jew or a Daoist or a Buddhist or whatever,
: Butcho. Each tradition--understood through
: the heart--points to the same thing.
:
: The distinctions we draw through our
: individual perspectives are all valid, while
: in the same moment they are total and
: unequivocal bullshit.
:
: The only difference between your metaphysics
: and mine, Butcho, is that I have absolutely
: no problem whatsoever with the status quo.
: I lose no sleep over the issue of whether
: you or I are 'aware' or 'right' on the
: issues we discuss.
:
: I have total faith that there is no problem,
: anywhere, and that there is nothing
: fundamental that needs doing, anywhere or at
: any time.
:
: Steve
:
Steve,

To me the great traditions are all pointing at the same thing in different ways also.

I do not believe anything said is totally this or that unless of course I happen to totally agree with what is being said. That is a horse of a different color.

The status quo sucks. But then so does gravity.

Chop wood, carry water. The same things that need to be done before enlightenment still need to be done after. Only from a different perspective.

In my opinion it is meaningless to say that nothing needs to be done. For me it is only half the equation. Meaninglessness needs to be balanced by meaningmoreness otherwise meaninglessness is meaningless.

Fact is the whole is greater than the sum of our parts.

And yes, reification does have its place.

Lian Dao is a curmudgeon. Lian Dao is a curmudgeon. Lian Dao is a curmudgeon.

Butcho

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Message Thread:

Is Steve a Closet Christian? - Butcho 6/12/2009, 10:02 am
- methinks the lady doth protest too much - Lian Dao 6/12/2009, 3:21 pm
  - Re: methinks the lady doth protest too much - Butcho 6/12/2009, 7:42 pm
    - butch gets wood - Lian Dao 6/13/2009, 2:57 pm
      - Re: butch gets wood - Steve 6/14/2009, 9:36 pm
- Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian? - Steve 6/12/2009, 9:16 pm
  - Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian? - Butcho 6/13/2009, 6:42 am
    - all i care about is sex and violence - Lian Dao 6/13/2009, 3:01 pm
      - Re: all i care about is sex and violence - Butcho 6/13/2009, 9:01 pm
    - Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian? - Steve 6/14/2009, 8:51 pm
      - Re: Is Steve a Closet Christian? - Aaron 7/28/2009, 10:34 am
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : Friends, : : "There is now no distinction neither : Jew nor Greek, : there is neither slave nor free, : there is not male and female; : for you are all one in Christ Jesus". : : Galatians 3:28 Amplified Bible : : : Butcho : : ------------------------------- : : Nothing wrong with being a Christian or a : Jew or a Daoist or a Buddhist or whatever, : Butcho. Each tradition--understood through : the heart--points to the same thing. : : The distinctions we draw through our : individual perspectives are all valid, while : in the same moment they are total and : unequivocal bullshit. : : The only difference between your metaphysics : and mine, Butcho, is that I have absolutely : no problem whatsoever with the status quo. : I lose no sleep over the issue of whether : you or I are 'aware' or 'right' on the : issues we discuss. : : I have total faith that there is no problem, : anywhere, and that there is nothing : fundamental that needs doing, anywhere or at : any time. : : Steve : : Steve, : : To me the great traditions are all pointing : at the same thing in different ways also. : : I do not believe anything said is totally : this or that unless of course I happen to : totally agree with what is being said. That : is a horse of a different color. : : The status quo sucks. But then so does : gravity. : : Chop wood, carry water. The same things that : need to be done before enlightenment still : need to be done after. Only from a different : perspective. : : In my opinion it is meaningless to say that : nothing needs to be done. For me it is only : half the equation. Meaninglessness needs to : be balanced by meaningmoreness otherwise : meaninglessness is meaningless. : : Fact is the whole is greater than the sum of : our parts. : : And yes, reification does have its place. : : Lian Dao is a curmudgeon. Lian Dao is a : curmudgeon. Lian Dao is a curmudgeon. : : Butcho : : : :

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