Tao Speaks: there is no exit from this hell

there is no exit from this hell

Posted by Steve on 4/22/2009, 6:18 pm, in reply to "Re: For anyone who accidentally fell into this rabbit hole: continued"
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"Nothing to do, nothing to obtain, and depending upon nothing, the self will manifest."

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I understand the whole megillah to suggest that 'the self will manifest' is not to be understood as something one achieves through effort. That the natural or uncontrived person is emptied of the desire to do or achieve anything even vaguely stinking of spirituality.

This 'emptiness' either comes or it does not. One cannot make it come. And whether it comes or not matters only to the seeker's Big Bad Rotten and Clarity-Obscuring Ego.

Cultivators believe there is something, spiritually-speaking, that can and should be accomplished through effort.

(Except rat, who cultivates only because it makes him happy.)

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Message Thread:

For anyone who accidentally fell into this rabbit hole: - white rabbit 4/22/2009, 4:29 pm
- Re: For anyone who accidentally fell into this rabbit hole: continued - white rabbit 4/22/2009, 4:32 pm
  - there is no exit from this hell - Steve 4/22/2009, 6:18 pm
    - Rabbit Stew - Butcho 4/22/2009, 9:34 pm
      - mind the gap, ladies and gentlemen - Steve 4/23/2009, 8:38 am
        
        Re: mind the gap, ladies and gentlemen - Butcho 4/23/2009, 4:53 pm
- bu - ren ying 4/23/2009, 1:56 pm
- Re: For anyone who accidentally fell into this rabbit hole: - ren ying 4/23/2009, 2:10 pm
  - Re: For anyone who accidentally fell into this rabbit hole: - Butcho 4/24/2009, 9:19 am
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--Previous Message-- : : "Nothing to do, nothing to obtain, and : depending upon nothing, the self will : manifest." : : *** : : I understand the whole megillah to suggest : that 'the self will manifest' is not to be : understood as something one achieves through : effort. That the natural or uncontrived : person is emptied of the desire to do or : achieve anything even vaguely stinking of : spirituality. : : This 'emptiness' either comes or it does : not. One cannot make it come. And whether : it comes or not matters only to the seeker's : Big Bad Rotten and Clarity-Obscuring Ego. : : Cultivators believe there is something, : spiritually-speaking, that can and should be : accomplished through effort. : : (Except rat, who cultivates only because it : makes him happy.) : : : :

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