
Posted by josef on 4/10/2009, 6:55 pm, in reply to "Wu-Wei or the Highway Map."
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: josef,
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: I quite agree. Words are symbols. They
: represent something other than themselves.
: To the degree that we are caught up in them
: we are caught up in a symbolic world, not
: the world as it is. A map rather than what
: the map is a map of.
:
: Such is the nature of words if carried to
: extreme. They are useful, but they are most
: useful when we realize they are essentially
: superfluous in and of themselves.
:
: Nothing wrong with a map as long as we
: remember it is just a model and not the
: reality it represents.
:
: All of our concepts are models.
:
: Butcho
Because we both understand this clearly, not mistaking the map for the territory, I can speak to about something that intrigures me. The very curious question of what actual reality the model/concept represents in words such as god or love. Don't we presume, as a result of our conditioning/taught beliefs a reality that may or may not even exist? Here's where Mystery lives for me. Detaching from conceptual, reified givens, assumptions fall away in all directions. Mystery remains. Interest. Then...indifference to the concepts, and engagement with what is as it is without interpretation or assumptions. A radically different life, something like divorced from context while still understanding and appreciating the context others live in.
Does this make any sense to you?
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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