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Posted by Butcho
on 4/10/2009, 4:36 pm, in reply to "wu wei"
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: This dialogue led me to some interesting
: musings. Religion is a system of *taught*
: beliefs. Language is a system of *taught*
: symbology. Taught=conditioning.
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: Imagine living in the most natural state on
: an island somewhere with no one to teach one
: anything. Without language or conditioning
: what one would learn, would have
: "faith" in, as that food satisfies
: hunger, water satisfies thirst; some snakes
: and plants are dangerous, and so on.
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: The world we create with our concepts is an
: alternate reality, a mental world,
: literally, that we experience, live in and
: from. Unnecessarily.
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: That's where wu makes sense, where wu wei
: makes sense. Wu is where the unnecessary
: isn't, wu wei is where we act and live
: without the unnecessary. Essential, simple,
: direct.
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: Imo.
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josef,
I quite agree. Words are symbols. They represent something other than themselves. To the degree that we are caught up in them we are caught up in a symbolic world, not the world as it is. A map rather than what the map is a map of.
Such is the nature of words if carried to extreme. They are useful, but they are most useful when we realize they are essentially superfluous in and of themselves.
Nothing wrong with a map as long as we remember it is just a model and not the reality it represents.
All of our concepts are models.
Butcho
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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