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Re: It takes faith to let go

Posted by josef on 4/9/2009, 10:44 am, in reply to "Re: It takes faith to let go"
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--Previous Message--

: Friends,
:
: By "Faith" I do not mean anyone
: has to have the same faith in my God or gods
: as I do. By Faith I mean that no matter our
: personal philosophy we rely on something we
: have "named" to get us through our
: day. Especially the difficult ones.
:
: For ren ying it is faith in the
: "swing". For some it is simply
: faith in existence. For some it is the
: eternal Tao. Others Allah. Others the Great
: Spirit in the Sky. Others claim no faith in
: anything at all. Some have faith in no
: faith.
:
: We all trust in something. I trust in
: existence. And for me there is something
: behind or beyond the One and the Many.
: Beyond temporal existence. Something
: eternal. Something Moses called "I AM
: THAT I AM".
:
: Letting go of our conditioning is what it is
: all about for me. Being born again. Waking
: up. Returning to our original self, our
: original nature.
:
: And for me I find this best done when I let
: go of words.
:
: Butcho

Letting go of conditioning is what it's all about for me too. Your "We all trust in something" gave me pause, wondering what it is I trust in. On reflection, strangely it's cause and effect, process, AKA Tao, the Way.

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Message Thread:

"Chop wood, carry water." - Butcho 4/8/2009, 9:20 am
- Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - Wayne L. 4/8/2009, 10:48 am
  - Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - Butcho 4/8/2009, 10:17 pm
    - Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - Wayne L. 4/9/2009, 9:43 am
      - Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - asininity 4/14/2009, 1:41 pm
        
        Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - Wayne L. 4/15/2009, 6:16 pm
        
        Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - asininity 4/17/2009, 1:49 am
        
        Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - Butcho 4/17/2009, 7:32 am
        
        Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - asininity 4/17/2009, 9:29 am
- Dull the senses, Un-focus the mind - gar 4/8/2009, 12:25 pm
  - Re: Dull the senses, Un-focus the mind - Butcho 4/8/2009, 10:55 pm
    - Staying on Track, the Right Track! - Wayne L. 4/10/2009, 11:04 am
  - Re: Dull the senses, Un-focus the mind - Wayne L. 4/10/2009, 11:14 am
- Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - josef 4/8/2009, 1:07 pm
  - Re: "Chop wood, carry water." - Butcho 4/8/2009, 11:01 pm
    - It takes faith to let go - gar 4/9/2009, 4:02 am
      - Re: It takes faith to let go - ren ying 4/9/2009, 6:51 am
        
        Re: It takes faith to let go - josef 4/9/2009, 7:50 am
        
        Re: It takes faith to let go - Butcho 4/9/2009, 8:33 am
        
        Re: It takes faith to let go - josef 4/9/2009, 10:44 am
        
        Re: It takes faith to let go - gar 4/9/2009, 11:42 am
        
        Wu-Wei. Taoist Faith. - Butcho 4/9/2009, 11:14 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei. Taoist Faith. - ren ying 4/10/2009, 12:42 am
        
        Re: Wu-Wei. Taoist Faith. - Butcho 4/10/2009, 8:17 am
        
        destroyer of language - ren ying 4/10/2009, 8:26 am
        
        wu wei - josef 4/10/2009, 9:45 am
        
        Re: wu wei - ren ying 4/10/2009, 11:09 am
        
        Re: wu wei - Wayne L. 4/10/2009, 1:31 pm
        
        Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - Butcho 4/10/2009, 4:36 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - josef 4/10/2009, 6:55 pm
        
        The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - Butcho 4/10/2009, 10:15 pm
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - josef 4/11/2009, 8:01 am
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - Butcho 4/11/2009, 9:29 am
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - josef 4/11/2009, 12:05 pm
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - Butcho 4/11/2009, 9:40 pm
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - josef 4/13/2009, 8:17 am
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - Butcho 4/13/2009, 9:46 am
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - josef 4/13/2009, 10:20 am
        
        Re: The Mystery of mysteries cannot be known, but it can be experienced. - Wayne L. 4/16/2009, 9:12 am
        
        To experience is to know. - asininity 4/17/2009, 2:21 am
        
        Re: To experience is to know. - Butcho 4/17/2009, 7:04 am
        
        Re: To experience is to know. - asininity 4/17/2009, 12:50 pm
        
        Re: To experience is to know. - Butcho 4/17/2009, 2:13 pm
        
        Re: To experience is to know. - asininity 4/18/2009, 2:57 am
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - ren ying 4/11/2009, 12:36 am
        
        raca - josef 4/11/2009, 7:37 am
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - Butcho 4/11/2009, 9:33 am
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - Wayne L. 4/12/2009, 12:58 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - ren ying 4/13/2009, 2:12 am
        
        zhao hai and qi hai - ren ying 4/13/2009, 5:52 am
        
        Re: zhao hai and qi hai - Butcho 4/13/2009, 9:54 am
        
        Re: zhao hai and qi hai - Wayne L. 4/13/2009, 3:05 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - Wayne L. 4/13/2009, 2:55 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - ren ying 4/14/2009, 1:53 am
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - Butcho 4/14/2009, 9:59 am
        
        Re: Wu-Wei or the Highway Map. - Wayne L. 4/14/2009, 6:08 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei. Taoist Faith. - Wayne L. 4/10/2009, 12:02 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei. Taoist Faith. - Butcho 4/10/2009, 4:22 pm
        
        Re: Wu-Wei. Taoist Faith. - Wayne L. 4/10/2009, 8:28 pm
        
        You can get anything you want at Alice's Dictionary! - Butcho 4/10/2009, 3:41 pm
        
        Re: It takes faith to let go - Wayne L. 4/10/2009, 11:33 am
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : Friends, : : By "Faith" I do not mean anyone : has to have the same faith in my God or gods : as I do. By Faith I mean that no matter our : personal philosophy we rely on something we : have "named" to get us through our : day. Especially the difficult ones. : : For ren ying it is faith in the : "swing". For some it is simply : faith in existence. For some it is the : eternal Tao. Others Allah. Others the Great : Spirit in the Sky. Others claim no faith in : anything at all. Some have faith in no : faith. : : We all trust in something. I trust in : existence. And for me there is something : behind or beyond the One and the Many. : Beyond temporal existence. Something : eternal. Something Moses called "I AM : THAT I AM". : : Letting go of our conditioning is what it is : all about for me. Being born again. Waking : up. Returning to our original self, our : original nature. : : And for me I find this best done when I let : go of words. : : Butcho : : Letting go of conditioning is what it's all : about for me too. Your "We all trust in : something" gave me pause, wondering : what it is I trust in. On reflection, : strangely it's cause and effect, process, : AKA Tao, the Way. :

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