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Posted by Butcho
on 3/28/2009, 9:56 pm, in reply to "sense and sensibility"
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--Previous Message--
: In order to be reasonable one must be
: sensible.
:
: To Reason without being sensible is to be
: Irrational.
:
: Irrationality is also a figment of the
: Imagination, a product of the Mind, a
: Creation,
: is born of the Imagination, has no direct
:
: You must realize that the Fully Realized
: Man,
: that Man's Primordial Nature is born of the
: Flesh Body with Man's Second Nature being a
: Creation, a product of the Mind, of the
: Imagination, being a figment of the
: imagination.
:
: Reason is not born of Nature, Compassion is
: not born of Man's Fight-Flight syndrome;
: However the senses of the Flesh Body can not
: be ignored when it comes to being a Rational
: Being.
:
: ---------------------------------
:
: 'Sensible' is what works for the decider.
: For us, it's sensible to avoid sharks. For
: sharks, it's sensible to tear us to shreds.
: It's as reasonable for us to avoid sharks as
: it is for them to eat us.
:
: The rules of the game are fixed--the
: outcome, assured. There's nothing
: fundamental that you or I need do.
:
: What we do we do for entertainment purposes
: only.
:
:
Steve,
Wrong, ol' hard cider breath.
One must remember when discoursing with Wayne that Wayne is a monist. There is only one like him. He confuses irrational with nonrational. Irrational is the polar opposite non-opposite of rationality. Monists just don't get this. To them it is all just One, numerically. Nonrational is an altogether different magnitude of understanding. A quality rather than a quantity. But I think someday Wayne will have a breakthrough moment. He is quite persistent. And a little mad. The perfect combination for the flash of the fundamental to come his way.
You, on the otherhand, are a horse of a different color. You tell him that has his glasses on top of his head not to look for them for he can see perfectly well without them. Your brand of monism is much more subtle than Wayne's or Assinfinitys'. You see a flower in full bloom and would have all buds remain as they are. Enlightenment is an organic process. It unfolds naturally in the human if nurtured and encouraged to grow. But how many are truly nutured and encouraged?
I think you mean well. Yes I do. But I think you continue to oversimplify to the point of stupefaction. Those that are conditioned are in need of being de-conditioned if they are to see what is right before their eyes with their own eyes. But no one can decondition another. Condition yes, de-condition no. To this extent you are correct. There has to be something within the heart of the sleeper that wakes him from his dreams of this and that.
But we can encourage each other. Point at the Moon as it were. Round Eyed Zennists like Assinfinity do not point at the Moon. Such types point at themselves. Look at me, ain't I the clever one. Clever has nothing to do with it. It is a matter of the heart, not the head. At least not the head alone but the whole of one's being, the mystic heart. The height of arrogance has to be the willingness of the blind to lead the blind. Here, buy some tax-deferred derivatives from me today and I will gladly pay you back with interest on the second Tuesday of next week. Clever little devils are the blind. Such middle-men are all too often false profits of a not so New Age Deal. Too good to be true.
And so it is with your spiel. Too good to be true. There is nothing to do. Everything is perfect just as it is. Right. Wrong. There is something to do if a person wants to be fully engaged in life. Wake Up!
Your friend in spite of what the Devil might say,
Butcho
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