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Posted by Nina
on 2/16/2009, 7:45 pm, in reply to "feel"
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: I cannot be fundamentally out-of-sync with
: the dao.
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: I can feel unhappy. I can feel loss. I can
: be cruel and unfeeling. But I cannot be
: fundamentally out-of-sync with the dao.
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: What would it mean, to be fundamentally
: out-of-sync with the dao? What degree of
: separation could possibly exist--outside of
: my subjective sense and experience--for such
: a thing to be true?
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: I don't understand, Steve.
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: What do you mean by
: "fundamentally"??
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: I mean 'objectively'--as opposed to what it
: feels like to us, Nina, subjectively.
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: Imagine you are suspended in Heaven by magic
: wires--cleansed of all you have been
: taught--and are watching the comings and
: goings down below.
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: Do you see any out-of-syncness there?
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: In a way I do, Steve. The part about just
: "watching the comings and goings down
: below" sounds a bit out-of-sync to me.
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: Being a fatalist (according to Butch), I
: think everything that's happened to me has
: led me to be a beneficial cog in the wheel
: of Dao. I'm in-sync when I accept and
: appreciate the lovely person I am, and act
: from my heart. Simply observing doesn't
: sound very appealing to me.
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: Do you feel out-of-sync when you become an
: active participant? Or did I miss your
: point?
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: -Nina
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: "Do you feel out-of-sync when you
: become an active participant? Or did I miss
: your point?"
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: feel That is the only thing that makes
: sense to me Nina. I either feel good or I
: don't. All I see is subjective; Other than
: the objective fact of my awareness of
: something existing, I would not know a
: fundamental if I saw one.
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: love,
: rat
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Kind of like........
If a tree falls in the forest and you're not there to hear/experience it, does it make any noise?
-Nina
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