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Posted by Lian Dao on 2/16/2009, 9:51 am, in reply to "Re: sky hooks"
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: I cannot be fundamentally out-of-sync with
: the dao.
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: I can feel unhappy. I can feel loss. I can
: be cruel and unfeeling. But I cannot be
: fundamentally out-of-sync with the dao.
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: What would it mean, to be fundamentally
: out-of-sync with the dao? What degree of
: separation could possibly exist--outside of
: my subjective sense and experience--for such
: a thing to be true?
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: I don't understand, Steve.
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: What do you mean by
: "fundamentally"??
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: I mean 'objectively'--as opposed to what it
: feels like to us, Nina, subjectively.
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: Imagine you are suspended in Heaven by magic
: wires--cleansed of all you have been
: taught--and are watching the comings and
: goings down below.
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: Do you see any out-of-syncness there?
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: Yeah. The 'magic wires' bit.
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: 'Fundamentally' has become so demonised as a
: word that even Nina questions its useage.
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: And yet Steve's argument has to have it, in
: order to work.
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Only if Steve's Dao and the Dao's Steve were to be taken as fundamental objectives.
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