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Posted by Nina
on 2/14/2009, 7:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Bigger Bang"
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: So, what caused the Big Bang?
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: Butcho
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: Butting in here..........
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: What difference does it make what caused the
: Big Bang? If you knew, how would that
: affect the way you live your life?
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: Have a Big Bang every day........ Maybe
: that would help in not wondering about stuff
: that happened a gazillion years ago?
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: -Nina
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: Nina
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: About 14 Billion years ago. The beginning of
: our Universe was not really that long ago
: when compared to eternity. A blink.
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: What does it matter? Well, if the Big Bang
: just happened then I might agree with you.
: But if some ineffable Supreme Being(s) is or
: are behind it all then it might make all the
: difference in the world. Maybe there really
: is a Wizard behind the curtain. Just not any
: wizard we can imagine. I can think of the
: eternal Tao in these terms. I do not feel
: that it is a stretch. I could be wrong, but
: I doubt it.
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: For instance, if there is a Creator it does
: not necessarily follow that it is a
: monotheistic god. It could be a polytheistic
: god. A god greater than the sum of its
: parts. More than one, but undivided, whole.
: What some Christians call the Trinity.
: Though I doubt such a God is limited to
: three aspects I still think some Christians
: are onto something. But I also doubt that
: they know what it is that they are onto.
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: On the other hand, I think Jesus knew
: exactly what he was talking about. But where
: existential things are concerned, something
: seems to almost always get lost in the
: translation. Words can be very helpful, but
: they can also be very damaging where
: understanding is concerned.
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: From my perspective, what difference does it
: make, is a rather pessimistic if not
: fatalistic perspective. One I do not
: endorse. I believe God, the Tao, existence,
: whatever, gave us a mind to use.
: Unfortunately most of us use it rather
: poorly. Or perhaps I should say it uses us.
: Such is the nature of our conditioning. Our
: thoughts and emotions not only are in
: control of us, we get to thinking that is
: all we are, just our thoughts and our
: emotions. We are that, but we are so much
: more as well. Think iceberg.
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: Ultimately I suppose it comes down to this.
: You gotta do what you gotta do, and I gotta
: do what I gotta do. Like snowflakes we are
: all made of the same stuff and yet no two of
: us are exactly alike. The Creator seems to
: be a creator of diversity. From the Tao
: comes the One and Many Manies. Manys.
: Whatever.
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: And yet inspite of our seeming differences
: if by having a Big Bang everyday you mean to
: look upon each new day and its activities
: with a sense of awe and wonder then we
: really are on the same page afterall. Just a
: different paragraph.
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: Butcho
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Thanks for trying to answer my questions, Butch, but I still don't see......
How having a belief in a Creator can make anyone's life better, happier, more blissful or feeling a loving connection with those around you?
You're probably right...... I'm a fatalist. Laozi was accused of that as well, so I don't think I'm in bad company. :-)
Humans exist because the environment at this time is suitable for their survival.
Another question:
If there is a Creator, why did "it" make all those planets and stars?
Bigger Bang........ When life is filled with all sorts of mental, physical and spirichool delights - there's no time or reason to ponder the beginning of time. There's a story in Zhuangzi about that.
-Nina
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-Li Daoqun
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