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Posted by Lian Dao on 2/14/2009, 2:46 am, in reply to "Re: Yeah, I feel better now."
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: Regardless of who it is that thinks you
: insane, Butcho, I admire your courage and
: applaud you for coming out as a proud and
: unashamed theist.
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: Living in the closet does none of us any
: good. The closet suffocates our potential.
: Suffocates our joy.
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: As Nina suggested, I'm considering adding
: you to the 'Worst Daoists in the Universe'
: list.
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: Would you have a problem with that?
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: Steve,
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: How can I be on the list if I am not a
: Taoist?
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: Or is it simply an honorary thing.
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: If so, then put me at the top or leave me
: off.
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: So, what caused the Big Bang?
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: Butcho
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: No one on the board has ever asked those
: questions, Butcho. I'll try my best to
: answer them.
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: "How can I be on the list if I am not
: a Taoist?"
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: Those on the list are a warning--to all the
: good Daoists on the web--of what could be.
: You know..."There but for the grace of
: God go I." Beyond that, I cannot say.
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: You cannot start at the top. You must start
: at the bottom and claw your way to the top.
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: Lian Dao's experience is instructive in this
: regard.
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: "So, what caused the Big Bang?"
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: Unknowable through our chemistries, Butcho.
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: Personally, I'm comfortable with that.
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: Steve
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: Steve,
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: In the Army I learned not to look directly
: at my target in the dark. It seems the
: periphery of the eye is more adaptable to
: low light condtions. Little Bang.
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: Maybe we cannot look directly at what was
: before the Big Bang. But maybe we can infer
: what a Creator might be like from what we
: can measure.
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: With Hubble and other new technologies for
: measuring the Cosmos Astronomers have been
: very busy measuring the Universe for the
: past few decades.
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: Their measurements reveal nothing less than
: the fingerprints of God, or the Tao if you
: prefer. But not the impersonal Tao. The Tao
: that is transpersonal.
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: What most Astronomers have come to realize
: is that the Universe is so finely tuned, so
: finely crafted, that nothing less than some
: sort of intelligence, superintelligence,
: must have designed it. The Universe was
: designed for life. Human life being the
: highest form of rational life we are aware
: of. The list of paramaters that make the
: case for intelligent design is staggering.
: The website of one of these Astronomers can
: be found at www.reasons.org/
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: If you are ever looking at the night sky
: through a pair of binoculars or a telescope,
: remember to shift your attention to the
: periphery of your vision and you will see
: better by several magnitudes than if you
: just stare from the center of your field of
: vision.
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Look's like somebody's avoiding me, you cheeky little thing. : P
But that's okay too. Actually i've been avoided by far superior individuals than you Butch so don't let it go to your head.
Obviously you can't answer my questions because you don't know the answers. Why didn't you just say so? i wouldn't get mad with you. How could i get mad with you?
Just one more question for you to avoid. Avoid it at your own pace, there's no pressure. These fingerprints that you keep seeing 'out there'? Maybe they're just on your telescope lens? Try cleaning it and looking again. Maybe then you'll just see stars and stuff.
And the reason that you think that the kosmos was specifically 'designed' by some 'intelligence' is nothing more than a bilious bout of good old-fashioned human arrogance. The sort of bout that thinks the kosmos was 'designed' for our benefit because we're so ####ing special. i'm not saying that you're not special Butch because you are, but the sooner we recognise our actual billing in the kosmos and put down the fingerprint-smeared spectacles than the better for all concerned.
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