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Posted by rat on 2/13/2009, 10:06 am, in reply to "Re: Nina's List- don't forget me please"
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: Most Lost Daoist:
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: 1. Steve on Monday
: 2. Steve on Tuesday
: 3. Steve on Wednesday
: 4. Steve the rest of the week
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: Does that make you feel better?
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: Oops....... I just read Butcho's response
: on God. He might get onto my list for that.
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: I know I am being repetitive Nina, but you
: really should put me at number one since I
: have the greatest humility here.
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: love,
: rat
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: rat,
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: Just start talking about the possibility of
: there being a God and you will immediately
: be put on the "Shit List".
:
: No brag, just fact.
:
: Start a post about "God" and I
: promise not to leave you hanging for more
: than a day or two.
:
: It is my opinion that most here started out
: believing in a God. But that most have
: fallen away from such a belief, not because
: of proof that there is no God, but because a
: "so-called" Christian(s) hurt them
: at some time in the past.
:
: I am suggesting that maybe we have thrown
: the baby out with the dishwater. If we have
: wouldn't it be tragic if we let the baby
: die?
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: I have been accused of being a "Latent
: Christian" here before. Perhaps I am. I
: know I have been thinking a lot about it
: lately. Today there is more scientific
: evidence than at any time in history that
: our Universe had a beginning. The Big Bang.
: The Eastern concept of the Universe is that
: it is eternal. If not as a one time event,
: as an oscillating one. Reincarnation if you
: will. But modern Science has ruled out an
: oscillating Universe. Not enough energy or
: mass. Our Universe is a one time event that
: had a beginning, and will have an end.
: Unless something "Super" natural
: steps in and changes the natural course of
: events. The longest lasting stars burn for
: about 80 Billion years. 80 Billion years
: might be a long time in dog years, but
: compared to Eternity it is a blink.
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: I am finding it harder and harder to believe
: that it just happened. That there was or is
: not some kind of a Creator that existed
: before our Universe did. I see design
: everywhere I look. What to me amounts to
: nothing less than the fingerprints of the
: Tao on everything, the fingerprints of the
: Creator, of God if you will.
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: Butcho
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You're picking on the wrong rat Butcho. I don't believe a God does not exist, and I don't believe a God does exist. Belief and disbelief have no useful function for me.
Pick on Steve.
But thanks for calling anyway.
love,
rat
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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