Re: Tao Te Ching #1 & the complaining lady
Posted by gapman on 2/8/2009, 2:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Tao Te Ching #1 & the complaining lady"
: And where we disagree is that I
: think I can improve the depth and durability
: of my ability to see the other shore. For
: you it seems to be a matter that is
: fundamentally black and white.
: Just because no further happiness is needed,
: (I am just fine the way I am), that does not
: necessarily discount the legitimacy of my
: increasing my ability to obtain more. Imo.
: "For you it seems to be a matter that
: is fundamentally black and white."
: For me, I'm afraid, it's that I continue to
: be a lousy communicator on point.
: I have never discounted the potential value
: of cultivation. There's a difference, I
: think, in pointing to the purely subjective
: nature of cultivation, and in discounting
: its value.
: Purely subjective--purely a creation of the
: ego it seeks to calm--and yet potentially
If you are saying "It is an illusion that works" I would not disagree.
But I also suspect that any characterization of anything is quite plausibly an illusion. The only thing I find to be surely real is my subjective experience. I experience it, and ipso facto, by definition, it exists.
For me, not only cultivation is quite likely only "pretend", so is everything else quite likely to be that.
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