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Posted by gapman on 2/8/2009, 1:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Tao Te Ching #1 & the complaining lady"
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:
: Hi Steve
:
: The question is: how much of the day do I
: know I am safe? Is it a more of talk or
: more of a walk?
:
: And there may be things I can do to further
: embody that "unpacking."
:
: No one can answer these questions unless
: they spend time with one of us and see if we
: actually embody "nothing to do."
:
: But then we might get some clues from how
: stridently each of us present our views
: here. Does "the lady protest too
: much."?
:
: love,
: rat
:
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:
: "But then we might get some clues from
: how stridently each of us present our views
: here. Does "the lady protest too
: much."?"
:
: There's nothing wrong with strident,
: passionate living. Those who suggest
: otherwise must be cryogenically frozen and
: gotten out of the way, so that the rest of
: us can be strident and passionate to our
: hearts' content.
:
: "The question is: how much of the day
: do I know I am safe? Is it a more of talk or
: more of a walk?"
:
: Here we are back to the 'gap,' discussion of
: which has been known to send you into a
: metaphysical tizzy, rat.
:
: I say...I do not have to 'know' that I am
: home and safe to experience the underlying
: peace and contentment that comes with my
: faith that I am home and safe, regardless
: of what my chemistry informs me.
:
: My chemistry is my friend. I would not
: change one iota, one neuron of it. It
: shelters and protects me. It ensures that
: when I go to bed at night and dream, I will
: awake the next morning.
:
: "And there may be things I can do to
: further embody that
: "unpacking.""
:
: There may indeed be things we can do.
:
: I suggest only that if you see the other
: shore, you are already there.
:
: You've recognized the gap. Seen it for what
: it is.
:
: Steve
:
Hi Steve
"I suggest only that if you see the other shore, you are already there."
Well said. And where we disagree is that I think I can improve the depth and durability of my ability to see the other shore. For you it seems to be a matter that is fundamentally black and white.
Just because no further happiness is needed, (I am just fine the way I am), that does not necessarily discount the legitimacy of my increasing my ability to obtain more. Imo.
love,
gapman
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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