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Posted by Lian Dao on 12/29/2008, 10:22 am, in reply to "Re: objective enlightenment"
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: Greetings rat,
:
: Do you think it's possible to experience
: objective enlightenment?
:
: There seems to be some scientific evidence
: that shows cause and effect in how our
: brains change it's processing when
: experienceing reality with a objective mind
: set.
:
: My own story; Every morning when i sat
: quietly on the beach, perhaps in meditation,
: my brain slowly changed it's way of
: processing information.
:
: By using machines, an isolation tank, and
: meditation, i seem to have achieved
: regulating brainwave activity through
: 'entrainment'.
:
: It seems to me, when our brain frequency is
: in the Alpha 8-13 Hz, and in the Theta 4-8
: Hz range, our perception of reality is
: different than normal waking state.
:
: Maybe this different perception of reality
: is what is known as 'objective
: enlightenment'??
:
: in peace,
: gar
:
: I don't know gar. Perhaps they are saying it
: is "objective evidence based
: enlightenment." I think that can be
: useful.
:
: But I think there is also a disadvantage in
: being able to say, "Look at this EEG, I
: am really doing something!"
:
:
: I think mediation can increase a person's
: sense of well-being. And it can also make
: some folks depressed and even suicidal. I
: am willing to take that risk for myself.
:
: love,
: rat
:
: Greetings rat,
:
: I guess i'm interested in how our brains
: work and how to consciously manipulate it.
:
: If you what to change to world, change the
: way you perceive it. It seems to me that the
: world is what it is and is unknown to our
: limited processor. gar thinks only our
: brains define this experience in our
: consciousness.
:
: If you want to gain more awareness on
: something it's best to perceive it with
: different perspectives. 3D viewing allows
: the observer to realize more information and
: exformation about an object than say, a
: frontal view.
:
: Turn the light on, i can see my hand. I look
: at my hand from your perspective, my hand is
: different. I look at my hand while my brain
: is producing THETA brainwaves, and it
: apprears not to be my hand.
:
: Which is my real hand? All of them, none of
: them?
: Maybe, my real hand is the one that my brain
: senses with all these prospectives from
: information and exformation, through various
: consciousness and subconsciousness.
:
: in peace,
: gar
:
: Hi gar
:
: I do think that manipulating brain waves
: can contribute to the realization of zile.
:
: love,
: rat
:
: Me Too!
:
What the thinker thinks, the prover proves - Robert Anton Wilson.
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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