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Posted by gar on 12/28/2008, 10:27 am, in reply to "Re: objective enlightenment"
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: Greetings rat,
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: Do you think it's possible to experience
: objective enlightenment?
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: There seems to be some scientific evidence
: that shows cause and effect in how our
: brains change it's processing when
: experienceing reality with a objective mind
: set.
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: My own story; Every morning when i sat
: quietly on the beach, perhaps in meditation,
: my brain slowly changed it's way of
: processing information.
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: By using machines, an isolation tank, and
: meditation, i seem to have achieved
: regulating brainwave activity through
: 'entrainment'.
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: It seems to me, when our brain frequency is
: in the Alpha 8-13 Hz, and in the Theta 4-8
: Hz range, our perception of reality is
: different than normal waking state.
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: Maybe this different perception of reality
: is what is known as 'objective
: enlightenment'??
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: in peace,
: gar
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: I don't know gar. Perhaps they are saying it
: is "objective evidence based
: enlightenment." I think that can be
: useful.
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: But I think there is also a disadvantage in
: being able to say, "Look at this EEG, I
: am really doing something!"
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: I think mediation can increase a person's
: sense of well-being. And it can also make
: some folks depressed and even suicidal. I
: am willing to take that risk for myself.
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: love,
: rat
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Greetings rat,
I guess i'm interested in how our brains work and how to consciously manipulate it.
If you what to change to world, change the way you perceive it. It seems to me that the world is what it is and is unknown to our limited processor. gar thinks only our brains define this experience in our consciousness.
If you want to gain more awareness on something it's best to perceive it with different perspectives. 3D viewing allows the observer to realize more information and exformation about an object than say, a frontal view.
Turn the light on, i can see my hand. I look at my hand from your perspective, my hand is different. I look at my hand while my brain is producing THETA brainwaves, and it apprears not to be my hand.
Which is my real hand? All of them, none of them?
Maybe, my real hand is the one that my brain senses with all these prospectives from information and exformation, through various consciousness and subconsciousness.
in peace,
gar
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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