
Posted by Lian Dao on 11/15/2008, 9:36 am, in reply to "Re: Marry?"
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: Religious institutions are not required, and
: were never required, to marry anyone they
: choose not to marry, Nina. Proposition 8
: was about refusing same-sex couples in
: California access to civil marriage. The
: Religious Right and their allies know this
: quite well.
:
: "I don't see how being gay changes the
: prospect of just getting on with your
: life.... without asking for help from anyone
: else. Maybe I'm missing something?"
:
: Yes, you are missing something, Nina.
: Same-sex couples aren't asking for 'help.'
: They're asking for equality under the law.
:
: If, for example, my life companion of 34
: years has a tragic accident, I could be
: legally refused admittance to the hospital
: emergency room to be with him, since in the
: eyes of the law I am considered a legal
: stranger to him.
:
: This sort of thing happens all the time to
: same-sex couples, Nina. This is only one of
: hundreds and hundreds of protections that we
: do not have because we're not permitted to
: marry.
:
: Domestic partnerships offer some protection
: but are available in only a handful of
: states and are generally not recognized
: outside the state in which they are issued.
:
:
:
: Well, the laws aren't always fair, Steve.
:
: Sometimes we can find ways to get around
: them.
:
: You can lie. Hehe. When my ex-partner was
: in the hospital, I said I was his wife. No
: one asked for a marriage certificate. I
: realize that wouldn't work for same-sex
: couples. Say you're his brother. Will they
: ask for a birth certificate? Or, you could
: each fill out "Power of Attorney for
: Health" forms.
:
: I hope you get what you want. Good luck!
:
: -Nina
:
Obviously i have absolutely no idea just what Proposition 8 is, other than sounding like a science-fiction novel set in some neo-fascist theological dystopia, but i get the distinct impression that Proposition 8 could may well result in bringing about a neo-fascist theological dystopia.
But only in America, so hey, what do i care?
'The history of liberty is the history of resistance'. Tyra Banks
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