Tao Speaks: Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit"

Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit"

Posted by gossamer on 11/11/2008, 2:12 pm, in reply to "Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit""
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Dear Steve,

I think that I'm probably prejudiced in my answer to this question.

I once lived for quite a few years in a place called "The River Valley".

It was on the Southern section of The (Cherokee) Trail of Tears.

There was literally a presence of "the valley spirit" there.

Perhaps in a 'shamanic' sense.

So, I guess the answer to your question is "Yes".

Peace, gossamer

--Previous Message--
: I just received a copy of 'The Tao Te
: Ching',
: by Ralph Alan Dale.
:
: In verse 6, Dale transliterates: "The
: spirit of life never dies".
:
: The first part of this verse is almost
: always (in other English translations):
: "The valley spirit never dies".
:
: Now, I used to live in a large valley, and I
: can actually tell you that there is
: something spiritually 'different' in the
: land, in the spirit that IS the land, in a
: valley.
:
: One has to actually live in a valley, to
: truly understand this verse in the DDJ.
:
: A valley is "alive" in a sort of
: way that other landscapes are NOT.
:
: And consequently, Ralph Alan Dale
: mistranslated this verse.
:
: Just a thought or two.
:
:
: Peace, gossamer
:
: ---------------------------
:
: I lived in an urban landscape for 26 years
: and observed nothing different there than I
: do here, in a rural landscape. The same
: principles at work. The same comings and
: goings. The same horrors and the same
: glories.
:
: Do you view chapter 6 as a commentary on the
: country/urban divide, gossamer?
:
:
:
:

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Message Thread:

"The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - gossamer 11/11/2008, 12:53 pm
- Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - Steve 11/11/2008, 1:25 pm
  - Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - gossamer 11/11/2008, 2:12 pm
  - A question for Steve - gar 11/11/2008, 2:31 pm
    - an answer for gar - Steve 11/11/2008, 4:40 pm
      - Re: an answer for gar - wulf 11/12/2008, 1:52 am
        
        a question for wulf - Steve 11/12/2008, 9:43 am
        
        Re: a question for wulf - wulf 11/12/2008, 10:28 am
      - Re: an answer for gar - gar 11/12/2008, 5:38 am
        
        picture in reduced size - wulf 11/12/2008, 10:59 am
        
        Re: picture in reduced size for Stephe - wulf 11/12/2008, 11:02 am
- Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - gar 11/11/2008, 2:22 pm
  - a valley - ying ren 11/11/2008, 2:40 pm
  - Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - Steve 11/11/2008, 3:00 pm
- Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - Bao Pu 11/11/2008, 2:40 pm
  - Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - gossamer 11/11/2008, 3:43 pm
    - Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - Steve 11/11/2008, 4:05 pm
      - Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - gossamer 11/11/2008, 4:47 pm
        
        Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - Steve 11/11/2008, 4:56 pm
    - Is the Honeymoon Over the Valley? - Butch 11/12/2008, 7:12 am
      - Re: Is the Honeymoon Over the Valley? - gossamer 11/12/2008, 9:30 am
- Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - Wayne L 11/18/2008, 1:38 pm
  - Re: "The Spirit of Life" vs. "The Valley Spirit" - gossamer 11/18/2008, 2:00 pm
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--Previous Message-- : Dear Steve, : : I think that I'm probably prejudiced in my : answer to this question. : : I once lived for quite a few years in a : place called "The River Valley". : : It was on the Southern section of The : (Cherokee) Trail of Tears. : : There was literally a presence of "the : valley spirit" there. : : Perhaps in a 'shamanic' sense. : : So, I guess the answer to your question is : "Yes". : : : Peace, gossamer : : : : : : --Previous Message-- : I just received a copy of 'The Tao Te : Ching', : by Ralph Alan Dale. : : In verse 6, Dale transliterates: "The : spirit of life never dies". : : The first part of this verse is almost : always (in other English translations): : "The valley spirit never dies". : : Now, I used to live in a large valley, and I : can actually tell you that there is : something spiritually 'different' in the : land, in the spirit that IS the land, in a : valley. : : One has to actually live in a valley, to : truly understand this verse in the DDJ. : : A valley is "alive" in a sort of : way that other landscapes are NOT. : : And consequently, Ralph Alan Dale : mistranslated this verse. : : Just a thought or two. : : : Peace, gossamer : : --------------------------- : : I lived in an urban landscape for 26 years : and observed nothing different there than I : do here, in a rural landscape. The same : principles at work. The same comings and : goings. The same horrors and the same : glories. : : Do you view chapter 6 as a commentary on the : country/urban divide, gossamer? : : : : : :

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