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Posted by jemimy on 5/14/2008, 8:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Ignore the distractions--keep your head in the game."
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--Previous Message--
:
: Yes, I do play the part of catalyst at
: times. Sometimes even consciously. I guess I
: get bored at times.
:
: As far as games go, I don't know what you
: and Steve are talking about... ok, again
: you've got me. Maybe you should shut up for
: a year or so little time to spare. Lucky for
: me I rarely wear a clock. er, I mean watch.
: See what I mean.
:
: Speaking of the subjective, a subject you
: have brought up so don't complain to me
: 'cause I am just doing my job. You speak of
: subjective as if it is some sort of
: conspiracy or mortal sin. Left-brainer you
: be. To deny subjective truth is just as
: false as claiming absolute subjective truth.
: That is, yes, I have a subjective opinion,
: but what separates me from some is that I
: also recognize the subjectiveness of
: "others" as well. Mountains are
: again mountains. Lot of mountains around
: these parts. Perhaps I have more regard for
: you than you have for yourself.
:
: As far as egos go mine comes and goes as do
: all seemingly separate things. But my ego
: likes to think it doesn't come 'round as
: much as it used to. My ego is more refined
: than it once was. Yes it is. I SAID IT IS.
: ok, I said it is. See, much more refined
: than it once was 'cause this is twice upon a
: time. What, me story?
:
: rat could be wrong. I don't know you well
: enough to know if you could be wrong or not.
: Steve is wrong all the time. He is right
: that way.
:
: Butch
:
Butch, I didn’t mention clocks, watches, or time. I enjoy life, I am pretty good at it, but I prefer life in the everyday sense to life in the “internet chat room” sense. Your post caught me at a weak moment.
Discussing subjectivity is a semantic minefield. At the risk of being hoist with my own petard I contend this: subjective opinions are neither “conspiracy” nor “mortal sin--they are conversationally vacant. That you, or anyone, feel a certain way about a particular concept based on anecdotal information, personal prejudice, or a “gut” feeling is not likely to be particularly valuable to anyone that is not you. The lexicon of personal, spiritual experience is imprecise and varies by milieu.
You may say you stubbed a toe or bumped an elbow and engender a sympathetic response from me based on a common human ability to feel vicariously the physical discomfort of another human. However, when you say you feel a oneness with the universe or a plurality with the multiverse I am at a loss.
Subjectivity is, of course, the antonym of objectivity. Subjectivity is based on feelings, or personal opinions instead of external, empirical, or historical evidence. Objectivity is not. I prefer the latter.
Ego has, in the past, been much discussed here. I have ego enough to bathe regularly. Beyond that, I couldn’t say.
Yes, Rat could be wrong. Steve, of course, is wrong all the time…that’s why he’s called “Steve.” If you were less Butch you would be correct more often.
j
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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