Tao Speaks: Prayer is an Antidote for what ails us.

Prayer is an Antidote for what ails us.

Posted by Butch on 3/26/2008, 6:56 pm, in reply to "Re: Prayer is Poison"
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--Previous Message--
: Interesting to see a thread on human rights
: get subverted into primitive appeals towards
: nonexistent entities.
:
: Prayer is superstitious balm for the
: powerless. We are not powerless.
:
: Meditate. Participate. Boycott. Don't forget
: to complain to retail managers who sell the
: junk. Ask the retailer to provide you with a
: product from a free country. Or if all else
: fails, one from the US.
:
: "Dare to struggle, dare to win!"
: --Mao QuXi
:
: Waywardly,
:
: --J
:
: ---------------------------
:
: Interesting, Jaime. But it seems to me that
: when it comes to personal practice, the line
: between superstition and reason becomes
: quite blurry.
:
: What's the difference, for instance, in
: saying that prayer is useful or that
: meditation is useful? Can you prove or
: disprove either statement?
:
: Is it more disempowering to consider oneself
: a captive of Satan or a captive of Ego?
:
: It's all quite subjective, imo, and requires
: a leap of faith whichever way one chooses to
: proceed.
:
: Steve
:
: Steve,

There is only one way to proceed if you want to get anywhere. Start within yourself.

Nothing can prove anything to a mind that is caught up in the shadow world of thoughts, attached to thoughts.

The Greater Jihad requires far more courage than the lesser jihad.

It is all a matter of faith.

Butch

Message Thread:

Tibet - Chris 3/20/2008, 2:32 am
- Freedom for Tibet - Lian Dao 3/20/2008, 5:34 am
- Re: Tibet - wulf 3/21/2008, 2:39 am
  - Re: Tibet - Chris 3/21/2008, 3:23 pm
    - Re: Tibet - wulf 3/24/2008, 2:13 am
- Re: Tibet - Fastovsky 3/22/2008, 9:35 pm
  - Re: Tibet - Bao Pu 3/23/2008, 9:54 am
    - Pray! - Butch 3/24/2008, 8:39 am
      - Meditate! - gar 3/24/2008, 9:28 am
      - Butch Comes Out! - Lian Dao 3/24/2008, 9:37 am
      - Re: Pray! - Steve 3/24/2008, 3:45 pm
        
        Pray I don't run out of air! - Butch 3/24/2008, 4:11 pm
        
        an apology to Lian Dao - Steve 3/24/2008, 5:43 pm
        
        Re: an apology to Lian Dao accepted - Lian Dao 3/25/2008, 4:47 am
        
        No Apology Needed Among Friends - Butch 3/25/2008, 8:20 am
        
        Re: No Apology Needed Among Friends - Steve 3/25/2008, 9:21 am
        
        Re: No Apology Needed Among Friends - gar 3/25/2008, 9:30 am
        
        no shame, no gain - Lian Dao 3/25/2008, 9:55 am
        
        Practice is Enlightenment - Butch 3/25/2008, 10:59 pm
        
        burn the heretics - Steve 3/26/2008, 9:08 am
        
        Rebel Without a Cause - Butch 3/26/2008, 6:40 pm
        
        Re: Rebel Without a Cause - Steve 3/26/2008, 9:07 pm
        
        Re: Rebel Without a Cause - Butch 3/26/2008, 10:06 pm
      - Prayer is Poison - Jaime 3/26/2008, 11:41 am
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Steve 3/26/2008, 3:47 pm
        
        Prayer is an Antidote for what ails us. - Butch 3/26/2008, 6:56 pm
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Butch 3/26/2008, 10:05 pm
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Steve 3/26/2008, 10:37 pm
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Butch 3/26/2008, 6:46 pm
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Fastovsky 3/26/2008, 11:31 pm
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Jaime 3/27/2008, 10:21 am
        
        Re: Prayer is Poison - Fastovsky 3/27/2008, 7:12 pm
        
        boycott was a weapon of fascism - wulf 3/28/2008, 7:33 am
        
        Re: boycott was a weapon of fascism - Jaime 3/28/2008, 11:01 am
        
        Re: boycott was a weapon of fascism - wulf 3/28/2008, 1:43 pm
        
        Re: Misquotations of Chairman Mao - Fastovsky 3/27/2008, 7:06 pm
        
        Re: Misquotations of Chairman Mao - Jaime 3/28/2008, 11:03 am
- Re: Tibet - Lian Dao 3/24/2008, 3:14 pm
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Interesting to see a thread on human rights : get subverted into primitive appeals towards : nonexistent entities. : : Prayer is superstitious balm for the : powerless. We are not powerless. : : Meditate. Participate. Boycott. Don't forget : to complain to retail managers who sell the : junk. Ask the retailer to provide you with a : product from a free country. Or if all else : fails, one from the US. : : "Dare to struggle, dare to win!" : --Mao QuXi : : Waywardly, : : --J : : --------------------------- : : Interesting, Jaime. But it seems to me that : when it comes to personal practice, the line : between superstition and reason becomes : quite blurry. : : What's the difference, for instance, in : saying that prayer is useful or that : meditation is useful? Can you prove or : disprove either statement? : : Is it more disempowering to consider oneself : a captive of Satan or a captive of Ego? : : It's all quite subjective, imo, and requires : a leap of faith whichever way one chooses to : proceed. : : Steve : : Steve, : : There is only one way to proceed if you want : to get anywhere. Start within yourself. : : Nothing can prove anything to a mind that is : caught up in the shadow world of thoughts, : attached to thoughts. : : The Greater Jihad requires far more courage : than the lesser jihad. : : It is all a matter of faith. : : Butch : :

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