Tao Speaks: Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind

Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind

Posted by rat on 3/12/2008, 6:05 pm, in reply to "Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind"
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--Previous Message--
: "Doing" is my willing that things
: make sense to me. Happiness is giving up
: this malignant will. Getting over the idea
: that things should be this way or that.
:
: ---------------
:
: Yes. I agree. Being happy for no rational
: reason.
:
: Returning to our favorite topic (heh), I
: think it probably best for me--probably more
: fulfilling in the long run--that my practice
: not have as goals 'fulfillment,'
: 'enlightenment,' 'ego reduction,' or any
: related diversionary bullcrap.
:
: What do you think?
:
Hi Steve, I think it is likely to be the case that whatever (idea, practice, etc) interferes with your optimal happiness (we can't seem to be happy all the time) is a waste of time.

But I could be wrong, maybe if we do things we hate (Like Lady Li in ZZ chapter one) we end up much happier. In fact, it might be good that we never know what the hell might make us happier.

There is a line in ZZ that says in reply to a similar question--- "Then what is the Dao good for?!"

love,
rat

Message Thread:

logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind - rat 3/12/2008, 8:45 am
- Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind - Steve 3/12/2008, 10:00 am
  - Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind - rat 3/12/2008, 10:08 am
    - Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind - Steve 3/12/2008, 10:38 am
      - Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind - rat 3/12/2008, 6:05 pm
- arrested consistency and the art of Daoism and Chapter 16 DDJ as the key - Lian Dao 3/12/2008, 10:50 am
  - Re: arrested consistency and the art of Daoism and Chapter 16 DDJ as the key - gar 3/12/2008, 5:09 pm
    - here and there and back again - Lian Dao 3/13/2008, 1:20 am
      - Re: here and there and back again - gar 3/13/2008, 6:47 am
        
        yeshua wants me for a rainbow - Lian Dao 3/13/2008, 7:13 am
        
        Re: yeshua wants me for a rainbow - gar 3/13/2008, 7:32 am
        
        fundamentalist choice heaven or hell? i choose neither! - Lian Dao 3/13/2008, 11:10 am
  - loop-escape - rat 3/12/2008, 5:58 pm
    - Re: loop-escape - Steve 3/12/2008, 6:48 pm
      - Re: loop-escape - Chris 3/12/2008, 9:02 pm
    - subject to conditions - Lian Dao 3/13/2008, 1:41 am
      - Re: subject to conditions & enjoying despite not escaping - rat 3/13/2008, 9:47 am
        
        round and round the mulberry bush - Lian Dao 3/13/2008, 11:07 am
- Bad Faith - Butch 3/13/2008, 10:02 am
  - Re: Bad Faith - rat 3/13/2008, 6:36 pm
    - Re: Bad Faith - rat 3/13/2008, 6:36 pm
  - Re: Bad Faith - Wayne L 3/15/2008, 1:08 pm
- Re: logical inconsistency at the heart of daoism and arresting the mind - Wayne L 3/15/2008, 11:48 am
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--Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : "Doing" is my willing that things : make sense to me. Happiness is giving up : this malignant will. Getting over the idea : that things should be this way or that. : : --------------- : : Yes. I agree. Being happy for no rational : reason. : : Returning to our favorite topic (heh), I : think it probably best for me--probably more : fulfilling in the long run--that my practice : not have as goals 'fulfillment,' : 'enlightenment,' 'ego reduction,' or any : related diversionary bullcrap. : : What do you think? : : Hi Steve, I think it is likely to be the : case that whatever (idea, practice, etc) : interferes with your optimal happiness (we : can't seem to be happy all the time) is a : waste of time. : : But I could be wrong, maybe if we do things : we hate (Like Lady Li in ZZ chapter one) we : end up much happier. In fact, it might be : good that we never know what the hell might : make us happier. : : There is a line in ZZ that says in reply to : a similar question--- "Then what is the : Dao good for?!" : : love, : rat :

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