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Posted by gar on 1/17/2008, 9:46 am, in reply to "Re: pop recognition of ancient wisdom"
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Greetings Josef,
Maybe we can share our thoughts without listening to the storm outside.
I enjoy your companionship.
in peace,
gar
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: Are you claiming you skipped the desiring
: part and went directly to awareness, josef?
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: This is so elemental, Steve, and we keep
: going over it. There no desire to have
: awareness...we're born aware. Where we
: direct our awareness is habit or choice. Not
: to have any is coma or death.
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: You seem determined to omit human ickiness
: from the equation.
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: What Ickiness???
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: Will you at least admit that your very human
: and very wicked desires--for clarity,
: awareness, whatever...are part of the
: equation?
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: No, I'm aware, there's no desire involved.
: Clarity is a discovery, not a desire. The
: initial desire for clarity, Enlightenment,
: whatever else, that sent me on this journey,
: gave way a long time ago to simple
: fascination, engagement, curiosity without
: expectation or hope of anything, a spirit of
: inquiry for its own sake. Just experience.
: Could liken it to entering a vast new
: landscape with extraordinary colors,
: textures, shapes, and simply exploring it,
: fascinated. Enoughness in just living it.
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: You don't have to trust my experience, I
: haven't insisted you do. I have shared it,
: but am dead tired of having to defend it to
: you and re-explain it. The Taoist practices
: & principles that used to be discussed
: here by people who find great insight in
: them have been so challenged here, debased
: even, little by little the forum has
: emptied. I give up, too.
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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