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Posted by josef on 1/16/2008, 9:56 am, in reply to "true mind, false mind"
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: The problem inherent in your system Josef
: is, are you simply thinking about not
: thinking the thoughts you are thinking? If
: so then perhaps there is a conditional
: distinction, that being of a dualistic
: nature, between your mind, or individual,
: cognitive thought and Mind as such?
No, thinking about not thinking is still thinking. And getting past that is no small matter initially, like getting past the I-awareness, "I am meditating" when meditating. Pushing past it all to pure awareness where there is no thought, and no sense of the "I", just experience.
Simple, direct, bare attention is without thought. If one's thinking at all, awareness is at least partially on the thought, and awareness of experience is divided. In the moments of rapt, complete attention, there is no thought.
My use of the word "mind" is probably a mistake, but I don't know which word is better. We have cognitive lucidity, we are aware. Of something. Our awareness is ordinarily scattered, dabbling between the fleeting awareness of direct experience and the constant mental chatter going on. Allowing the mental chatter to cease, there remains full awareness, experience.
Words are crappy tools.
josef
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"The Tao is basically utterly open. Utter openeness has no substance. It ends in endlessness, begins in beginninglessnes".
-Li Daoqun
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